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Seems global outage: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/whatsapp-is-down-globally.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/whatsapp-is-down-globally.ht... Each time
by pelario 4y ago
Seems global outage:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/whatsapp-is-down-globally.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/whatsapp-is-down-globally.ht...
Each time this happens I try to recruit more people to use Signal.
- arcanemachiner 4y agoIs this not just another centralized point of failure?
- berkes 4y agoI'm presuming GP does not put Signal forward as a solution to outages. But instead uses the opportunity to talk about messengers and show that there are alternatives in general. At least, that is what I do.
- teekert 4y agoYes it's what I do, and then I actively struggle to hold back on pushing Matrix/Element as the solution. The beauty of the federated system, it's the way the internet was intended to function, oh man I love talking about it. But, nobody unaware of Signal will ever run their own Matrix server of course. Signal is simple, recognizable, very much like WA. A WA outage is indeed a good point in time to have a lighthearted conversation about messengers and platforms. A lot of people still don't realize Meta owns WA. What I like is that the normy friends I have on Signal are now telling all their normy friends/colleagues about Signal and how we are still apping away while WA is down.
- the_duke 4y agoSignal is just another centralised architecture. You should recruit people to Matrix , which supports Federation.
- theelous3 4y agoYep. I host my own server and have it federated. That part was simple. It was a struggle to get my core group of friends to sign up, and I just sort of haven't bothered trying to get anyone outside that group to try it. They are not technical people in the hn sense but are vastly more competent than the average joe. It's the normies at large who dictate comms platforms really. Things like matching emoji support and easy + performant video and picture sharing are absolutely crucial.
- zhte415 4y agoCall me old fashioned. I email.
- palata 4y agoWhy not IRC? That's old fashion, and amazing :)
- sschueller 4y agoHow is Signal any better? US based, centralized, hostile towards alternate clients. Not much better IMO.
- RNAlfons 4y agoI'd say it's a lot better since it doesn't do unknown things with your address book. It actually doesn't do any unknown things and the fact that they're US based is irrelevant since they have nothing to give away thanks to E2EE.
- thih9 4y agoWhat kind of unknown things with an address book is WhatsApp doing?
- thehta 4y agoThe idea is that Meta uses WhatsApp contact lists to build and maintain their social graphs, which is in turn used for advertising.
- em500 4y agoWhatsApp uploads the address book from the user's phone to Meta's servers and after that it's unclear to outsiders what they do with it. Hence "unknown".
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- palata 4y agoMuch better in that it is open source (so you can audit the e2ee), and it does a lot about metadata. It is actually better at protecting metadata than many decentralized alternatives. Nobody said it was perfect. It's just better.
- THENATHE 4y agoWhatsApp actually uses signal protocol for e2ee