That's unfair to FTL and the advancement of rogue-likes and perhaps more importantly, rogue-lites. It's not just "permadeath", there's also the seeding and ran

That's unfair to FTL and the advancement of rogue-likes and perhaps more importantly, rogue-lites. It's not just "permadeath", there's also the seeding and randomness of each game . (No-one would argue that Super Mario is a rogue-like). Additionally, and while this is stretched to some degree in games like Hades, there's the discrete-time based nature of the games compared to a game like Isaac for instance. Then with rogue-lites there's also a layering of meta-progression on top of the game loop progression. Saying that roguelikes are "just" permadeath is misrepresenting the genre entirely. And the nature of words is that you might conclude that rogue isn't necessarily the quintessential rogue-like game, but that's okay.