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It is not. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-nudes-legislation-oped/ https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-...

It is not. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-nudes-legislation-oped/ https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-... > This sending of unsolicited nudes, or cyberflashing, is not only violent and pernicious, it’s entirely without consequences in 49 states.

Kiro 4y ago
Keep reading the article and you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places, including Texas where Bumble is based. > Now, the sending of a lewd photo without the recipient’s consent is a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, punishable by a fine of up to $500.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  > you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places There's a bill waiting for a Governor's signature in Virginia (which I guess will make it illegal there) and some bills being discussed / worked on in other places but as far as I can tell from the article, Texas is currently the only state with an actual law on the books to make it illegal.
4gotunameagain 4y ago
> not only violent When the western world is so isolated from violence that a naked photo is labeled as such.. Don't get me wrong, that is probably a good thing. And of course I am against unsolicited nudes, but "violence" is a bit of a stretch
mschuster91 4y ago
There are jurisdictions other than the US, you know? Germany, for example, places unsolicited nude photos as a felony [1]. [1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-verschickens-von-sog-dickpics-oder-nacktbildern_170759.html https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).
  - mschuster91 4y ago
    Fully agree that the 184 series of StGB is not up to date (e.g. that 17 year olds routinely end up in trouble with the law for sending their partners consensual pictures) and the German youth protection law is ridiculous, but the idea that sending someone unsolicited pornography is bad is a good one IMHO.
    - formerly_proven 4y ago
      Sure, nothing wrong per se with 184(1)6 criminalizing that. I'd argue though that this only comes about unintentionally because 184i (sexual harassment) only covers physical sexual harassment. Meanwhile non-physical sexual harassment is completely legal in Germany unless it is an insult in itself (185). IMHO the proper way is to mostly yeet 184 (because there is no particular reason for the state to morally regulate porn using the criminal code apart from stuff like CSAM) and criminalize sexual harassment in general (physical or not). That's of course going to be a hard sell for German conservatives (I can already see CDU and AfD go "the leftist greens dictatorship is making DATING illegal!")
      - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
        Honestly, I think the proper way with most laws would be to just yeet them entirely and go for a round of refactoring; but alas, politicians aren't programmers and neither do they have the same mindset of cleaning up after themselves or even after others, so we're stuck with sub-optimal legislation like this and that probably won't ever change.

Kiro 4y ago

Keep reading the article and you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places, including Texas where Bumble is based. > Now, the sending of a lewd photo without the recipient’s consent is a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, punishable by a fine of up to $500.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places There's a bill waiting for a Governor's signature in Virginia (which I guess will make it illegal there) and some bills being discussed / worked on in other places but as far as I can tell from the article, Texas is currently the only state with an actual law on the books to make it illegal.

4gotunameagain 4y ago

> not only violent When the western world is so isolated from violence that a naked photo is labeled as such.. Don't get me wrong, that is probably a good thing. And of course I am against unsolicited nudes, but "violence" is a bit of a stretch

mschuster91 4y ago

There are jurisdictions other than the US, you know? Germany, for example, places unsolicited nude photos as a felony [1]. [1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-verschickens-von-sog-dickpics-oder-nacktbildern_170759.html https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...

formerly_proven 4y ago
184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).
- mschuster91 4y ago
  Fully agree that the 184 series of StGB is not up to date (e.g. that 17 year olds routinely end up in trouble with the law for sending their partners consensual pictures) and the German youth protection law is ridiculous, but the idea that sending someone unsolicited pornography is bad is a good one IMHO.
  - formerly_proven 4y ago
    Sure, nothing wrong per se with 184(1)6 criminalizing that. I'd argue though that this only comes about unintentionally because 184i (sexual harassment) only covers physical sexual harassment. Meanwhile non-physical sexual harassment is completely legal in Germany unless it is an insult in itself (185). IMHO the proper way is to mostly yeet 184 (because there is no particular reason for the state to morally regulate porn using the criminal code apart from stuff like CSAM) and criminalize sexual harassment in general (physical or not). That's of course going to be a hard sell for German conservatives (I can already see CDU and AfD go "the leftist greens dictatorship is making DATING illegal!")
    - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
      Honestly, I think the proper way with most laws would be to just yeet them entirely and go for a round of refactoring; but alas, politicians aren't programmers and neither do they have the same mindset of cleaning up after themselves or even after others, so we're stuck with sub-optimal legislation like this and that probably won't ever change.