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I assume your boss didn't have to install Xcode? Installing Xcode updates is something that I spend way too much time on....

amatecha 4y ago
I have a couple friends who live pretty off-grid and the colossal 10gb+ XCode updates was one reason they abandoned Apple ecosystem. It's just not sustainable when your entire month's data allotment isn't enough to download the update for a single piece of software you require to do your work.
- stepbeek 4y ago
  I live semi-rurally with really crappy ADSL available. Starlink was a god-send. The number of projects that require extremely good connectivity is really surprising. In particular, I was surprised by how much docker pull struggles on a poor connection.
wmurmann 4y ago
They take forever but it’s only once in a while. If you’re just trying to support newer iOS versions you can just yank them from here instead of updating. https://github.com/iGhibli/iOS-DeviceSupport https://github.com/iGhibli/iOS-DeviceSupport
saagarjha 4y ago
They don’t actually take that long now. They’re a big download but beyond that it’s only few minutes to extract them.
- vetinari 4y ago
  I have exactly opposite problem - it downloads quickly, but installing takes eternity (via app store). Bonus points when I leave the computer to let it install; then it thinks it is idle, puts itself into sleep and the install fails. Rinse, repeat.
  - shantara 4y ago
    I don't know, what App store is doing during the install, but using it to manage Xcode has always been extremely irritating. It's a lot easier to manually download Xcode from Apple's dev portal. The download speed always maxes out my internet connection, and installing is just a question of unpacking the archive, which doesn't make more than a few minutes..
- masukomi 4y ago
  > They’re a big download but beyond that it’s only few minutes to extract them. That's your privilege speaking. "a big download" (xcode size) can be VERY expensive (relative to typical income) and VERY slow in some countries. As an industry we kinda suck about assuming that just because we have a lot of bandwidth and cheap data, everyone else does too. We impose a lot of unnecessary cost on poor people in 3rd world countries because of our lazyness with regards to bandwidth, CPU usage, RAM, etc., and or disregard of their financial and infrastructural realities.
nicoburns 4y ago
Get Xcodes.app. Installing and updating becomes one click. You still have to wait on th download, but it will spaurate your network connection unlike the App Store updates. Installing multiple versions side by side also just works using this method.

amatecha 4y ago

I have a couple friends who live pretty off-grid and the colossal 10gb+ XCode updates was one reason they abandoned Apple ecosystem. It's just not sustainable when your entire month's data allotment isn't enough to download the update for a single piece of software you require to do your work.

stepbeek 4y ago
I live semi-rurally with really crappy ADSL available. Starlink was a god-send. The number of projects that require extremely good connectivity is really surprising. In particular, I was surprised by how much docker pull struggles on a poor connection.

wmurmann 4y ago

They take forever but it’s only once in a while. If you’re just trying to support newer iOS versions you can just yank them from here instead of updating. https://github.com/iGhibli/iOS-DeviceSupport https://github.com/iGhibli/iOS-DeviceSupport

saagarjha 4y ago

They don’t actually take that long now. They’re a big download but beyond that it’s only few minutes to extract them.

vetinari 4y ago
I have exactly opposite problem - it downloads quickly, but installing takes eternity (via app store). Bonus points when I leave the computer to let it install; then it thinks it is idle, puts itself into sleep and the install fails. Rinse, repeat.
- shantara 4y ago
  I don't know, what App store is doing during the install, but using it to manage Xcode has always been extremely irritating. It's a lot easier to manually download Xcode from Apple's dev portal. The download speed always maxes out my internet connection, and installing is just a question of unpacking the archive, which doesn't make more than a few minutes..
masukomi 4y ago
> They’re a big download but beyond that it’s only few minutes to extract them. That's your privilege speaking. "a big download" (xcode size) can be VERY expensive (relative to typical income) and VERY slow in some countries. As an industry we kinda suck about assuming that just because we have a lot of bandwidth and cheap data, everyone else does too. We impose a lot of unnecessary cost on poor people in 3rd world countries because of our lazyness with regards to bandwidth, CPU usage, RAM, etc., and or disregard of their financial and infrastructural realities.

nicoburns 4y ago

Get Xcodes.app. Installing and updating becomes one click. You still have to wait on th download, but it will spaurate your network connection unlike the App Store updates. Installing multiple versions side by side also just works using this method.