> The USB Implementers Forum people are partly why we're in this mess. IMHO it really is. For the first releases of power delivery, the IF decided to _not_ go

> The USB Implementers Forum people are partly why we're in this mess. IMHO it really is. For the first releases of power delivery, the IF decided to _not_ go with Apple's existing system that they developed to negotiate charging levels for iPods, iPhones and iPads. Instead they standardized another new, incompatible mechanism. If you ever wondered why so many Apple devices and cables don't have USB logos, it is because they were left with little way to be compliant with PD 1.0 and still support literally a billion previously shipped devices and chargers at the time. This caused a market with incompatibilities between Android and iDevice charging ecosystems, which (again IMHO) was what caused the last round of EU mandates in the first place. Qualcomm and others capitalized on various gaps with their own proprietary charging protocols, which then created a need for their chips in chargers as well. Things really didn't even start to get fixed until rather recently, with Power Delivery 3.0 and PPS.