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Enter the terminal. Don't leave. It's basically the same everywhere.

bigiain 4y ago
Once you're there, you may as well run Linux on your old Apple laptop. Sometimes I seriously suspect the only things keeping me from doing that are SublimeText and Pixelmator. I have not yet gotten annoyed enough with macOS to relearn all my finger macros that've been driving Sublime for a decade and getting up to speed with a different text editor, or to have leaned how to drive Gimp well enough to be reasonably able toi use it to replace Pixelmator in a productive fashion. Oh, and _maybe_ OmniGraffle, but I'm not sure I've even opened that yet this year.
- macNchz 4y ago
  Sublime has a Linux build which works perfectly! I switched from MacOS to Ubuntu as a daily driver two years ago. Keyboard shortcuts generally were the biggest annoyance, however I can’t speak to Sublime shortcuts specifically, as I have all my editors set to use Emacs style bindings.
  - bigiain 4y ago
    Ooooh, thanks. I am 100% going to check that out. (Hope there's a build that'll run on my Pinebook...)
    - mfashby 4y ago
      I use it on mine regularly :)
- Klonoar 4y ago
  >Once you're there, you may as well run Linux on your old Apple laptop. I mean, frankly... no. I live in the terminal on my Mac, but I still need a browser to deal with everything else. The battery life on a MacBook alone will kick the everloving hell out of most non-Apple laptops currently. Scrolling is always smooth, and I don't even hear a fan these days with the M1. Living in the terminal on macOS affords you relative consistency; while yes, Apple has changed things in releases (or held back due to licensing stuff), it all mostly works as expected and will generally not break between OS releases. That's the important bit here.
urthor 4y ago
MacOS keyboards are dire though. I wish the Thinkpad wasn't so awful. Unfortunately, the screen, silicon AND power management software of a Thinkpad + Linux is miles behind MacOS.
- howinteresting 4y ago
  13th gen Intel is quite competitive with M1/M2 in perf per watt.
  - urthor 4y ago
    Peak vs idle is the question. I haven't seen 13th gen extremely closely. It'll get very, very complicated though. The performance per watt at the top of the voltage frequency curve for the performance cores, is very different to the voltage frequency curve for the idle cores at base clock. Especially at low queue depth, infrequent operations.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Don’t share the same opinion. The keyboards they use now are the best I have had on any laptop.
  - urthor 4y ago
    Layout, rather than switch, I should have said.
- chx 4y ago
  ThinkPad + Windows + WSL. You are welcome.

Once you're there, you may as well run Linux on your old Apple laptop. Sometimes I seriously suspect the only things keeping me from doing that are SublimeText and Pixelmator. I have not yet gotten annoyed enough with macOS to relearn all my finger macros that've been driving Sublime for a decade and getting up to speed with a different text editor, or to have leaned how to drive Gimp well enough to be reasonably able toi use it to replace Pixelmator in a productive fashion. Oh, and _maybe_ OmniGraffle, but I'm not sure I've even opened that yet this year.

macNchz 4y ago
Sublime has a Linux build which works perfectly! I switched from MacOS to Ubuntu as a daily driver two years ago. Keyboard shortcuts generally were the biggest annoyance, however I can’t speak to Sublime shortcuts specifically, as I have all my editors set to use Emacs style bindings.
- bigiain 4y ago
  Ooooh, thanks. I am 100% going to check that out. (Hope there's a build that'll run on my Pinebook...)
  - mfashby 4y ago
    I use it on mine regularly :)
Klonoar 4y ago
>Once you're there, you may as well run Linux on your old Apple laptop. I mean, frankly... no. I live in the terminal on my Mac, but I still need a browser to deal with everything else. The battery life on a MacBook alone will kick the everloving hell out of most non-Apple laptops currently. Scrolling is always smooth, and I don't even hear a fan these days with the M1. Living in the terminal on macOS affords you relative consistency; while yes, Apple has changed things in releases (or held back due to licensing stuff), it all mostly works as expected and will generally not break between OS releases. That's the important bit here.

urthor 4y ago

MacOS keyboards are dire though. I wish the Thinkpad wasn't so awful. Unfortunately, the screen, silicon AND power management software of a Thinkpad + Linux is miles behind MacOS.

howinteresting 4y ago
13th gen Intel is quite competitive with M1/M2 in perf per watt.
- urthor 4y ago
  Peak vs idle is the question. I haven't seen 13th gen extremely closely. It'll get very, very complicated though. The performance per watt at the top of the voltage frequency curve for the performance cores, is very different to the voltage frequency curve for the idle cores at base clock. Especially at low queue depth, infrequent operations.
Gigachad 4y ago
Don’t share the same opinion. The keyboards they use now are the best I have had on any laptop.
- urthor 4y ago
  Layout, rather than switch, I should have said.
chx 4y ago
ThinkPad + Windows + WSL. You are welcome.