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That's a heck of a dystopian view, TBH. Be glad it was just the landfill, otherwise it might have been a nuclear dump? Welp, guess that's just economics, nothin

by titzer 4y ago

That's a heck of a dystopian view, TBH. Be glad it was just the landfill, otherwise it might have been a nuclear dump? Welp, guess that's just economics, nothing we can do about that, poor unlucky rubes! I know you didn't mean it that way, but it can sound extraordinarily tone-deaf to talk down to people like this.

nostrademons 4y ago
A lot of people on the Internet would rather be right than liked. The medium lends itself to this: there's little point in having random people you will never meet like you. I thought OP was making an interesting point about economics, personally - that there's sort of a law of "conservation of unpleasantness" in a market economy, and if it wasn't the landfill, there would be some other thing objectionable about your property. You approach your career very differently (and by capitalist standards, usually more successfully) if you figure that you're going to dislike some things anyway, but might as well be deliberate in choosing what you dislike.
- lukas099 4y ago
  This was a really good comment, thanks.
- titzer 4y ago
  It's not necessarily about being liked; that's part of our current culture's narcissism problem. It's about what kind of society do you want to live in. Do you want to live in a society where the prevailing attitude ranges from the personal "welp, sucks to be you! be grateful you have anything at all you gutter trash" to the non-personal "it's unfortunate this machine runs on frickaseed baby faces, well I guess there's nothing we can do". To be clear, I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, not accusing. It'd be great if our society could move past those two sides of the same coin to a more "oh, look, here's an area where people are getting screwed, maybe we can fix that". That's a kind of problem-solving attitude focused on people, not a popularity contest.
  - thwayunion 4y ago
    Agreed. But, if we're not problem-solving, I'm more the happy to smile along at happy hours and hold very long grudges.

by titzer 4y ago

nostrademons 4y ago

A lot of people on the Internet would rather be right than liked. The medium lends itself to this: there's little point in having random people you will never meet like you. I thought OP was making an interesting point about economics, personally - that there's sort of a law of "conservation of unpleasantness" in a market economy, and if it wasn't the landfill, there would be some other thing objectionable about your property. You approach your career very differently (and by capitalist standards, usually more successfully) if you figure that you're going to dislike some things anyway, but might as well be deliberate in choosing what you dislike.

lukas099 4y ago
This was a really good comment, thanks.
titzer 4y ago
It's not necessarily about being liked; that's part of our current culture's narcissism problem. It's about what kind of society do you want to live in. Do you want to live in a society where the prevailing attitude ranges from the personal "welp, sucks to be you! be grateful you have anything at all you gutter trash" to the non-personal "it's unfortunate this machine runs on frickaseed baby faces, well I guess there's nothing we can do". To be clear, I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, not accusing. It'd be great if our society could move past those two sides of the same coin to a more "oh, look, here's an area where people are getting screwed, maybe we can fix that". That's a kind of problem-solving attitude focused on people, not a popularity contest.
- thwayunion 4y ago
  Agreed. But, if we're not problem-solving, I'm more the happy to smile along at happy hours and hold very long grudges.