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Appreciated by whom? "The company" can't appreciate anything: it's just a corporate structure. In a privately owned company, the owner may appreciate it, or the

Appreciated by whom? "The company" can't appreciate anything: it's just a corporate structure. In a privately owned company, the owner may appreciate it, or they may just want you gone. Depends on your performance. Working for a large corporation, I got the promotions and the every 5 years gifts but they were by and large meaningless. I don't really think anyone cares about long term commitment. I was asked once to stay at least a year because recruiting me was very expensive and they wanted to get their money's worth. I appreciated the frankness of the request.

deathanatos 4y ago
> "The company" can't appreciate anything: it's just a corporate structure. Does the company regularly¹ adjust worker wages to account for inflation and employee growth? (I.e., a two-year tenure employee should be worth more than a 0-year employee simply because they know how stuff in the company functions. I.e., they don't need to be trained!) That, in rough English, is "appreciating" it. Yes, normally, there's some lip service the company will give, but actual rewards in the form of compensation is the real "appreciation". But a surprising number of employers, AFAICT, don't do that. Shockingly, SWEs tend to jump ship a bit after 2 years of not getting anywhere. (And write their own salary adjustments on the jump.) It's incredibly detrimental to continually hemorrage that experience, but I feel like places I've been at don't get it for two reasons: management is too disconnected to know it, and it's all they've ever known, so they don't know how bad it is, as they've no relative basis to judge. Dunning–Kruger, essentially. ¹I'd argue yearly, but at least bi-yearly.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
  I pointed out to my boss once that the percentage range that I was approved to allocate to raises for my direct reports was less than inflation and it amounted to a pay cut. He shrugged.

deathanatos 4y ago

> "The company" can't appreciate anything: it's just a corporate structure. Does the company regularly¹ adjust worker wages to account for inflation and employee growth? (I.e., a two-year tenure employee should be worth more than a 0-year employee simply because they know how stuff in the company functions. I.e., they don't need to be trained!) That, in rough English, is "appreciating" it. Yes, normally, there's some lip service the company will give, but actual rewards in the form of compensation is the real "appreciation". But a surprising number of employers, AFAICT, don't do that. Shockingly, SWEs tend to jump ship a bit after 2 years of not getting anywhere. (And write their own salary adjustments on the jump.) It's incredibly detrimental to continually hemorrage that experience, but I feel like places I've been at don't get it for two reasons: management is too disconnected to know it, and it's all they've ever known, so they don't know how bad it is, as they've no relative basis to judge. Dunning–Kruger, essentially. ¹I'd argue yearly, but at least bi-yearly.

HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
I pointed out to my boss once that the percentage range that I was approved to allocate to raises for my direct reports was less than inflation and it amounted to a pay cut. He shrugged.