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I wish we could choose one layout and then keep to it. I mean, I am all open to an EU law here and I'm an not even joking. Update: calm down, I only meant the

I wish we could choose one layout and then keep to it. I mean, I am all open to an EU law here and I'm an not even joking. Update: calm down, I only meant the Fn and Ctrl positions :)

taeric 4y ago
I don't know if I want to switch back to qwerty, at this point. :D
orangepurple 4y ago
There are only a handful of mainstream keyboard layouts. Mostly ISO and ANSI.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > There are only a handful of mainstream keyboard layouts. Mostly ISO and ANSI. You've got to be joking? Not even all my Macs have the same keyboard, let alone looking at Windows laptops.
Xeamek 4y ago
That's still bad, at this point there are equally as many ctrl-fn fanatics, as fn-ctrl. Option to adjust them in bios is perfect solution
- JimBlackwood 4y ago
  Why a BIOS option? I don’t see why laptop keyboards can’t just ship with programmable firmwares. I think ZSA is showing with their Oryx GUI just how easy it can be for an end user.
  - danudey 4y ago
    I'm assuming I'm not understanding you properly, but are you suggesting that flashing a custom firmware is an easier solution than changing an option in the BIOS?
    - Mavvie 4y ago
      Assuming there'd be a nice UI in userspace to adjust the keyboard firmware settings, that would be a lot more accessible to casual users than going into BIOS. (Although, casual users probably don't care that much about Fn-Ctrl vs Ctrl-Fn)
      - codethief 4y ago
        Great, so one day said UI stops working on up-to-date releases of your $FAVORITE_OS because of $DEPENDENCY_ISSUES or whatever, and then what?
  - henearkr 4y ago
    The FW's embedded controller's firmware has been open-sourced, is on Github, and you can flash your customized version if you wish so: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController
  - postpawl 4y ago
    The fn key is not a real key on the software level: https://askubuntu.com/a/827953 https://askubuntu.com/a/827953

I wish we could choose one layout and then keep to it. I mean, I am all open to an EU law here and I'm an not even joking. Update: calm down, I only meant the Fn and Ctrl positions :)

taeric 4y ago

I don't know if I want to switch back to qwerty, at this point. :D

orangepurple 4y ago

There are only a handful of mainstream keyboard layouts. Mostly ISO and ANSI.

chrisseaton 4y ago
> There are only a handful of mainstream keyboard layouts. Mostly ISO and ANSI. You've got to be joking? Not even all my Macs have the same keyboard, let alone looking at Windows laptops.

Xeamek 4y ago

That's still bad, at this point there are equally as many ctrl-fn fanatics, as fn-ctrl. Option to adjust them in bios is perfect solution

JimBlackwood 4y ago
Why a BIOS option? I don’t see why laptop keyboards can’t just ship with programmable firmwares. I think ZSA is showing with their Oryx GUI just how easy it can be for an end user.
- danudey 4y ago
  I'm assuming I'm not understanding you properly, but are you suggesting that flashing a custom firmware is an easier solution than changing an option in the BIOS?
  - Mavvie 4y ago
    Assuming there'd be a nice UI in userspace to adjust the keyboard firmware settings, that would be a lot more accessible to casual users than going into BIOS. (Although, casual users probably don't care that much about Fn-Ctrl vs Ctrl-Fn)
    - codethief 4y ago
      Great, so one day said UI stops working on up-to-date releases of your $FAVORITE_OS because of $DEPENDENCY_ISSUES or whatever, and then what?
- henearkr 4y ago
  The FW's embedded controller's firmware has been open-sourced, is on Github, and you can flash your customized version if you wish so: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController
- postpawl 4y ago
  The fn key is not a real key on the software level: https://askubuntu.com/a/827953 https://askubuntu.com/a/827953