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Agree with a lot of these points. It's wild to me that the brightness keys are nonfunctional (unless you sacrifice the ambient light sensor) and there's no ETA

Agree with a lot of these points. It's wild to me that the brightness keys are nonfunctional (unless you sacrifice the ambient light sensor) and there's no ETA on a fix. Random freezes and graphical issues aren't fun either. Another annoyance is weird handling of non-integer scaling on Linux. It's not great on Windows, but I don't need to dig into config files for most apps or use one off launch arguments.

kelvie 4y ago
Yeah, as another fairly technical Framework owner, my experience was basically 100% the same as the author's. Are you on wayland? This is my first wayland experience (if you don't count the Steam Deck), and it was mostly seamless only after upgrading to the latest KDE, which disables scaling for Xwayland programs. Firefox still requires a janky workaround for wayland though, but as I understand it, wayland-based setups depend strongly on what the compositor implements (in my case, Kwin I think).
- noasaservice 4y ago
  That sagging, old Wayland is designed like a garbage scow. I meant to say that it should be hauled away AS garbage!
  - aidenn0 4y ago
    Well sir, this was a matter of pride!
vhodges 4y ago
re: fractional scaling... it seems to work okay in both Cinnamon and Plasma (X11 for both - no experience with Wayland)
kmeisthax 4y ago
I was able to """fix""" the graphical crashes and non-integer scaling problems by... going back to Xorg. :/ Wayland reliably crashes after a day (standby or no), and the resulting crash renders the sound codec hardware inoperable until I unplug the battery. Xorg has had no issues. Well, except for the massive amount of screen tearing.
mkozlows 4y ago
My experience is completely different. Yes, there's the brightness key/light sensor thing. (I'm okay with that, because I hate ambient light sensors anyway -- the constant fluctuating brightness drives me nuts -- but it's a real thing.) But I haven't had any freezes or other issues, with a totally untweaked Fedora 36 on a 12th gen Framework. Everything works great. It is exactly what I would want a Linux laptop experience to be. There are enough people reporting the crashes that there's obviously something real going on, but the part where it hasn't hit me _at all_ really makes me wonder what it is.

kelvie 4y ago

Yeah, as another fairly technical Framework owner, my experience was basically 100% the same as the author's. Are you on wayland? This is my first wayland experience (if you don't count the Steam Deck), and it was mostly seamless only after upgrading to the latest KDE, which disables scaling for Xwayland programs. Firefox still requires a janky workaround for wayland though, but as I understand it, wayland-based setups depend strongly on what the compositor implements (in my case, Kwin I think).

noasaservice 4y ago
That sagging, old Wayland is designed like a garbage scow. I meant to say that it should be hauled away AS garbage!
- aidenn0 4y ago
  Well sir, this was a matter of pride!

vhodges 4y ago

re: fractional scaling... it seems to work okay in both Cinnamon and Plasma (X11 for both - no experience with Wayland)

kmeisthax 4y ago

I was able to """fix""" the graphical crashes and non-integer scaling problems by... going back to Xorg. :/ Wayland reliably crashes after a day (standby or no), and the resulting crash renders the sound codec hardware inoperable until I unplug the battery. Xorg has had no issues. Well, except for the massive amount of screen tearing.

mkozlows 4y ago

My experience is completely different. Yes, there's the brightness key/light sensor thing. (I'm okay with that, because I hate ambient light sensors anyway -- the constant fluctuating brightness drives me nuts -- but it's a real thing.) But I haven't had any freezes or other issues, with a totally untweaked Fedora 36 on a 12th gen Framework. Everything works great. It is exactly what I would want a Linux laptop experience to be. There are enough people reporting the crashes that there's obviously something real going on, but the part where it hasn't hit me _at all_ really makes me wonder what it is.