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I’ve used macs since system 7 and it went from oh I know what to click to basically me typing in the search bar for what to find.

anotherrandom 4y ago
They made it so "user-friendly" it is no longer user-friendly.
- johnebgd 4y ago
  MacOS X peaked in being user friendly with Tiger.
  - zephyr9 4y ago
    I vehemently disagree, Snow Leopard was the champion.
    - seehafer 4y ago
      Fellow Snow Leopard fan here. Best version of any OS, ever, in my estimation.
      - NetOpWibby 4y ago
        +1 I wasn’t even on a Mac at the time but I was highly impressed by it. I modded the hell out of Windows to match SL visually. I’m looking forward to the next SL release, assuming it ever happens.
      - tangue 4y ago
        +1... And the last one without cloud pushed down your throat
    - o_m 4y ago
      I was a college student the time and decided to spend hundreds of dollars on the SSD upgrade (going from 500gb HDD to 128gb SSD) for my Macbook Pro. Best decision ever. It was amazing to see the machine booting completely to the desktop in under 10 seconds, not even my M1 MAX MPB boots that quickly.
    - Tagbert 4y ago
      Snow Leopard ruined things. Tiger was the best. /s (Get off my lawn)
metafunctor 4y ago
In recent years I've been using the search bar a lot anyway, since the modal nature of the old System Preferences app wasn't great for quickly checking through several settings screens. And I often forget where some settings are — the taxonomy is not always so clear. The new Settings app seems like an improvement to me. The vertical list of settings categories is easier to quickly scan, and it remains visible all the time. That alone is a great improvement, and makes it quite a bit easier to navigate the (huge) list of available settings.
- fnord123 4y ago
  >The new Settings app seems like an improvement to me. While using Gnome's style for the settings application is a huge improvement, the implementation is laggy and doesn't scroll smoothly. And it takes a while for each Stack item to load and render when it's selected. x86_64 here.
  - metafunctor 4y ago
    Yeah, the items could load more snappily. On my M1 there's a delay (0.2 – 0.5 seconds?) between clicking an item and it showing up — enough to make it feel annoyingly laggy. I haven't used Gnome in decades. To me it looks just like the iPad Settings app, or iPhone's in horizontal mode.
kergonath 4y ago
I gave up a while ago trying to remember in which preference pane each setting was. There are just too many buttons that are moved every other version. I cannot live without Spotlight in system preferences.
- piva00 4y ago
  I gave up when a bunch of easily-accessible settings for mouses/mousepads/keyboards went to the "Accessibility" pane. It was annoying to see the Accessibility pane become a catch-all pane for power-user features...
  - frosted-flakes 4y ago
    iOS does this too. Why is disabling "Tap to wake" in the Accessibility settings? That should be with the Display or Lock Screen settings.

anotherrandom 4y ago

They made it so "user-friendly" it is no longer user-friendly.

johnebgd 4y ago
MacOS X peaked in being user friendly with Tiger.
- zephyr9 4y ago
  I vehemently disagree, Snow Leopard was the champion.
  - seehafer 4y ago
    Fellow Snow Leopard fan here. Best version of any OS, ever, in my estimation.
    - NetOpWibby 4y ago
      +1 I wasn’t even on a Mac at the time but I was highly impressed by it. I modded the hell out of Windows to match SL visually. I’m looking forward to the next SL release, assuming it ever happens.
    - tangue 4y ago
      +1... And the last one without cloud pushed down your throat
  - o_m 4y ago
    I was a college student the time and decided to spend hundreds of dollars on the SSD upgrade (going from 500gb HDD to 128gb SSD) for my Macbook Pro. Best decision ever. It was amazing to see the machine booting completely to the desktop in under 10 seconds, not even my M1 MAX MPB boots that quickly.
  - Tagbert 4y ago
    Snow Leopard ruined things. Tiger was the best. /s (Get off my lawn)

metafunctor 4y ago

In recent years I've been using the search bar a lot anyway, since the modal nature of the old System Preferences app wasn't great for quickly checking through several settings screens. And I often forget where some settings are — the taxonomy is not always so clear. The new Settings app seems like an improvement to me. The vertical list of settings categories is easier to quickly scan, and it remains visible all the time. That alone is a great improvement, and makes it quite a bit easier to navigate the (huge) list of available settings.

fnord123 4y ago
>The new Settings app seems like an improvement to me. While using Gnome's style for the settings application is a huge improvement, the implementation is laggy and doesn't scroll smoothly. And it takes a while for each Stack item to load and render when it's selected. x86_64 here.
- metafunctor 4y ago
  Yeah, the items could load more snappily. On my M1 there's a delay (0.2 – 0.5 seconds?) between clicking an item and it showing up — enough to make it feel annoyingly laggy. I haven't used Gnome in decades. To me it looks just like the iPad Settings app, or iPhone's in horizontal mode.

kergonath 4y ago

I gave up a while ago trying to remember in which preference pane each setting was. There are just too many buttons that are moved every other version. I cannot live without Spotlight in system preferences.

piva00 4y ago
I gave up when a bunch of easily-accessible settings for mouses/mousepads/keyboards went to the "Accessibility" pane. It was annoying to see the Accessibility pane become a catch-all pane for power-user features...
- frosted-flakes 4y ago
  iOS does this too. Why is disabling "Tap to wake" in the Accessibility settings? That should be with the Display or Lock Screen settings.