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> If we found out wood causes cancer, If the rate was high enough I bet we'd phase it out. Don't underestimate the importance of the size of the effect.

cogman10 4y ago
Smoke from burning wood causes lung cancer at roughly the same rate as cigarettes. Have we banned wood stoves/ovens/or fire pits? I dare say, wood smoke has caused more cancer than asbestos ever did. [1] [1] http://www.familiesforcleanair.org/wood-smoke-pollution-kills-more-than-two-million-people-a-year/ http://www.familiesforcleanair.org/wood-smoke-pollution-kill...
- darkarmani 4y ago
  > Dr. Smith has spent decades studying the health effects of indoor air pollution due to biomass burning on women and children in developing countries. Your link is talking about indoor fires. Outdoor fire pits wouldn't concentrate the smoke in the living area. I have no idea what the total effect would be for outdoor fires, but it isnt' the same as the indoor burning biomass stoves
- schwartzworld 4y ago
  In my area fire pits are absolutely illegal. It's densely populated and people don't want to breathe their neighbors smoke.
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- lazide 4y ago
  They’re largely phased out in large swathes of Californa due to ‘spare the air’ days lining up almost perfectly with days you’d ever want to use them.
- crazygringo 4y ago
  Yes they are absolutely banned in lots of places. And there are whole programs designed to reduce worldwide deaths from smoke, precisely because it is a major problem. It's something we're actively working on because it's so serious and plausibly fixable. So what on earth are you trying to say?
- toofy 4y ago
  > Have we banned wood stoves…? wood burning stoves are absolutely required to be updated now with certified emissions stoves. all four wood burning stoves/fireplaces in our cabin had to be replaced before we could finalize the purchase. also it would have been considered uninsurable if the stoves were not updated to meet the new wood burning standards. these weren’t like antique stoves either, if i’m remembering correctly they were new in like 2000ish. honestly, the region of our cabin is noticeably more pleasant to be in since they started requiring this—when i used to go there as a kid, the air was just awful to breathe when everyone was using the previous gen wood burning fireplaces.
- bluedino 4y ago
  How much higher is treated wood vs firewood?

cogman10 4y ago

Smoke from burning wood causes lung cancer at roughly the same rate as cigarettes. Have we banned wood stoves/ovens/or fire pits? I dare say, wood smoke has caused more cancer than asbestos ever did. [1] [1] http://www.familiesforcleanair.org/wood-smoke-pollution-kills-more-than-two-million-people-a-year/ http://www.familiesforcleanair.org/wood-smoke-pollution-kill...

darkarmani 4y ago
> Dr. Smith has spent decades studying the health effects of indoor air pollution due to biomass burning on women and children in developing countries. Your link is talking about indoor fires. Outdoor fire pits wouldn't concentrate the smoke in the living area. I have no idea what the total effect would be for outdoor fires, but it isnt' the same as the indoor burning biomass stoves
schwartzworld 4y ago
In my area fire pits are absolutely illegal. It's densely populated and people don't want to breathe their neighbors smoke.
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lazide 4y ago
They’re largely phased out in large swathes of Californa due to ‘spare the air’ days lining up almost perfectly with days you’d ever want to use them.
crazygringo 4y ago
Yes they are absolutely banned in lots of places. And there are whole programs designed to reduce worldwide deaths from smoke, precisely because it is a major problem. It's something we're actively working on because it's so serious and plausibly fixable. So what on earth are you trying to say?
toofy 4y ago
> Have we banned wood stoves…? wood burning stoves are absolutely required to be updated now with certified emissions stoves. all four wood burning stoves/fireplaces in our cabin had to be replaced before we could finalize the purchase. also it would have been considered uninsurable if the stoves were not updated to meet the new wood burning standards. these weren’t like antique stoves either, if i’m remembering correctly they were new in like 2000ish. honestly, the region of our cabin is noticeably more pleasant to be in since they started requiring this—when i used to go there as a kid, the air was just awful to breathe when everyone was using the previous gen wood burning fireplaces.
bluedino 4y ago
How much higher is treated wood vs firewood?