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Amazon reportedly freezing AWS hiring
CNBC reporting that Amazon made the announcement after market close. In the past they had announced freezes across Amazon except AWS.
So far I can't find an article or official announcement, but CNBC is reporting it and that seems to be why the stock price has been dropping post close.
- michellerebe4 4y ago
- Juliet245 4y ago
- Juliet245 4y ago
- doctorshady 4y agoI couldn't find an article, but a cursory search did pull up this: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/24/solus-dan-greenhaus-weighs-in-on-amazons-hiring-freeze-for-its-web-services-unit.html https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/24/solus-dan-greenhaus-we...
- __derek__ 4y agoCNBC points to a New York Post article[1]: > Amazon has frozen hiring in parts of its lucrative web services division — an apparent escalation of the company’s cost-cutting efforts, The Post has learned. > Amazon Web Services — the highly profitable division that brought in more than $62 billion in revenue in 2021 — has started telling some job candidates that roles they were seeking have been frozen, according to prospective candidates. [1]: https://nypost.com/2022/10/24/amazon-freezes-hiring-in-parts-of-lucrative-web-services-division/ https://nypost.com/2022/10/24/amazon-freezes-hiring-in-parts...
- jstx1 4y agoTheir turnover is high though, a hiring freeze will reduce their staff by a lot (compared to other companies). Or is it one of those hiring freezes where they still hire replacements?
- marssaxman 4y agoMaybe reducing their staff by a lot is the point.
- tentboy 4y agoi live in DC and their HQ2 in arlington VA dominates my linkedin suggested roles. they still have hundreds or even thousands of unfilled roles. i remember hearing originally they were hiring like 5000 engineers across both HQs. surprising that they would straight up freeze hiring, unless this is maybe just freezing of junior roles or something. I want to see more details about this
- yuppie_scum 4y agoCould also be a way of making managers take mentoring and development more seriously. Va current rank and yank/pipping
- esotericimpl 4y ago
- bergenty 4y agoTurnover is only high in the warehouse and other blue collar areas
- throwayyy479087 4y agoThat is not true. AWS has a ton of churn
- zamalek 4y agoAnd that churn is by design. I wonder if they plan to freeze stack ranking, too.
- brailsafe 4y agoMakes me feel less bad about failing the interview I guess
- glouwbug 4y agoTries for days
- brailsafe 4y agoI guess I didn't trie hard enough
- willio58 4y agoFrom what I've read on here, you're not missing out on anything great anyway. The money is good, that's about it.
- brailsafe 4y agoYa, I don't feel like I'm missing out on too much there. After taxes it wouldn't be life changing coin anyway in my country.
- ActorNightly 4y agoAmazon has the best inner-company relocation policy IMO. Basically, if another manager accepts you on their team, nobody in Amazon can block your move. People use this all the time to look for teams with very easy or non existent on call and relocate super easily to places they want to live in, including Europe.
- willio58 4y agoCall me old fashioned but if the only benefit of working for a company is their relocation policy I'd rather just get a job I like and pay for myself to relocate if that's what I want to do.
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- softwaredoug 4y agoI do wonder if a cloud bubble is actually popping. For small orgs you have Heroku, etc. Having a dumb place to run code or turn on a service is really valuable. Especially when it comes with an SLA and support. Above a certain level you probably adopt k8s for different components, and just want to treat your cloud as a commodity. Then you realize, like base camp has, any kind of compute - even static servers you own - also does the trick and can also run k8s.
- scarface74 4y agoYou realize Heroku runs on AWS right? And no, most organizations are not using K8s and never will. Docker is not a magic bullet.
- mlyle 4y ago> For small orgs you have Heroku, etc. Having a dumb place to run code or turn on a service is really valuable. Especially when it comes with an SLA and support. Yes, he does. He's saying that when you grow to a point, you might want to seek just dumb commodity compute -- even including servers you own.
- Spivak 4y agoDocker, well the OCI and their specs, isn’t magic but it is absolutely the magna carta of application packaging, distribution, and deployment. Docker commoditized “platforms” and k8s is on its way to do the same to “cloud.” And it’s a good thing, as someone who is very on-prem oriented. I now have a set of APIs and specs that let me present “here’s your full self service cloud devs, enjoy.” And all the tooling works.
- scarface74 4y agoYou don’t work with the large enterprises that I work with everyday. Let’s not pretend that K8s doesn’t bring its own set of complications. Not to mention enterprises that have 500+ servers, some running Windows, some running COTS, etc. Much of the time it is easier just to spend up a VM and install whatever you need.
- boring_twenties 4y agoMeanwhile, I have recruiting emails for AWS with the following dates: Oct 17 Oct 14 Oct 12 Sept 26 Aug 24 Aug 15 Each one is from a different "person" (probably the same automated software, of course).
- P_I_Staker 4y agoThey've really lowered themselves by resorting to embarrassing tactics. I was getting emails with subject lines only about dogs, and demands to give a yes/no response... it's weird the little games people pull. I ran into a homeless guy, hands full of pennies, and low value change. He's saying "please, I just want money for a hamburger". I'm wondering, how is holding fistfuls of change gonna help. I do get the psychology, but that's a weird strategy; yet part of me think it must be effective for him to try it.
- boring_twenties 4y agoTo be perfectly honest, I've never heard anything other than horror stories about working at Amazon, so I wouldn't ever consider working there unless I was in a really bad place with no other way to pay my bills. To hedge against that scenario, I used to do the standard quick, polite response. Not anymore. All that got me was even more spam, and even more annoying spam, to boot. Sometimes identical messages, and sometimes messages about how they're trying "one last time" since I obviously must have missed the first N attempts... hilariously, I did't get those kinds of messages any of the times I actually didn't respond! Not only am I almost certainly talking to automated software, but exceptionally low quality software at that! Now I'm thinking even if I do ever become desperate I'd be better off living in a van for a while than working at a place like this.
- llbeansandrice 4y agoI had one pretending to be an email confirming a package delivery from Amazon.
- boring_twenties 4y ago
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- _boffin_ 4y agoWas going to say… just got a recruiter email from them on Friday.
- dev_0 4y agoI see many people are happy to work in Amazon or AWS....is it accurate for majority of Amazonians?
- rtev 4y agoAren’t both notoriously horrible employers? I’ve heard almost nothing but bad things unless you’re very senior.
- ansraliant 4y ago
- ActorNightly 4y agoStandard internet negative bias. Compared to people who are unhappy, people who have good experience post about it at a much, much, much lower rate. Its the same for product reviews. There are a lot of products with mediocre reviews because people who actually bother to write a review most often have complaints. Statistically speaking, if you look at the total number of Amazon SDEs, and consider the fact that Amazon still makes a shitload of money in all their sectors, that means that majority of the people have no issues working there. If it was across the board bad, people would go to other places, which would directly results in declining profits and growth of competitors.
- faangiq 4y agoNo chance
- Stamp01 4y agoThank god. Maybe I'll finally stop getting recruitment spam from them.
- gwnywg 4y agoI don't think I understand all of this, was contacted by AWS recruiter yesterday, with info that their hiring process was reduced significantly and with relocation package as part of offer...
- inpartsof 4y agoWhen the retail part of the Amazon froze corporate hiring, that was a real freeze - open (previously approved but unfilled) positions were closed/advertising pulled. This isn't that. This is just AWS finally meeting hiring targets (i.e. filling open, approved headcount) in some parts of the business and not continuing to hire beyond them. Other parts of AWS are still hiring. Backfills for attrition are still a thing, etc. What this really says is that the job market and/or the aggregate risk tolerance of job seekers (e.g. betting on a startup) has cooled.
- Der_Einzige 4y agoAll HN users who are any good at coding should refuse to do non onsite interviews with AWS (and tiktok). Doing this is the only way to stop them from mass spamming us. This actually works btw. I've had several on-sites with AWS with no phone screen. The perks of a strong profile I guess!
- pratnala 4y agoPrevious freeze was only in retail, not across Amazon
- origamirobot 4y agoGood, maybe their annoying recruiters will stop sending me emails.
- giantg2 4y agoPerhaps a freeze because they churned through all the qualified talent and now they need to figure out what to do haha.
- Kkoala 4y agoThey have no one to hire anymore, so I guess you can call that a "freeze" :D