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But what the article doesn't really do at all is clarify why doing this replacement is a bad thing. For the vast majority of MacOS users, this will be a good th

But what the article doesn't really do at all is clarify why doing this replacement is a bad thing. For the vast majority of MacOS users, this will be a good thing because most of them are using iOS/iPadOS as their first point of content. Making things seamless across all these devices might be, at most, a slight inconvenience for power users but it will be an improvement for literally everyone else. Hacker News is obviously a different demographic but no tech company is going to cater to power users. There's not enough of us for anyone to take what we say meaningfully.

ohCh6zos 4y ago
I have been an Apple user since 1990, and I think you are absolutely right. In my mind iPad OS and iOS are so bad I don't want my Mac taking any inspiration from them, but I bet the average user wants something familiar to those two platforms.
- dkonofalski 4y ago
  The ideal situation, for me, would be some kind of progressive disclosure or a way to toggle "Advanced" versions of these panels and sections but I totally get why Apple wouldn't want to do that. It's double the work for such a small crowd.
  - KerrAvon 4y ago
    Progressive disclosure can work, but an “Advanced/Expert” type setting does not. Dunning-Kruger kicks in and everyone flips the advanced switch whether they should or not.
    - dkonofalski 4y ago
      That doesn't mean it doesn't work. It just means that some people are going to overestimate their competence to make those changes. I would be happy if it could only be turned on via Terminal, for example.
timw4mail 4y ago
As an old Mac user I loathe iOS.
72deluxe 4y ago
This is like saying we should get rid of manual gearboxes and all use automatics because automatics are easier for new drivers.
- jlundberg 4y ago
  Yes, and this is exactly what is happening. Makes no sense for new drivers to spend time on gearboxes as electric cars don’t need them.
- dkonofalski 4y ago
  Yes, that's exactly it. There's no market for manual transmissions except for a very small minority of users.

ohCh6zos 4y ago

I have been an Apple user since 1990, and I think you are absolutely right. In my mind iPad OS and iOS are so bad I don't want my Mac taking any inspiration from them, but I bet the average user wants something familiar to those two platforms.

dkonofalski 4y ago
The ideal situation, for me, would be some kind of progressive disclosure or a way to toggle "Advanced" versions of these panels and sections but I totally get why Apple wouldn't want to do that. It's double the work for such a small crowd.
- KerrAvon 4y ago
  Progressive disclosure can work, but an “Advanced/Expert” type setting does not. Dunning-Kruger kicks in and everyone flips the advanced switch whether they should or not.
  - dkonofalski 4y ago
    That doesn't mean it doesn't work. It just means that some people are going to overestimate their competence to make those changes. I would be happy if it could only be turned on via Terminal, for example.

timw4mail 4y ago

As an old Mac user I loathe iOS.

72deluxe 4y ago

This is like saying we should get rid of manual gearboxes and all use automatics because automatics are easier for new drivers.

jlundberg 4y ago
Yes, and this is exactly what is happening. Makes no sense for new drivers to spend time on gearboxes as electric cars don’t need them.
dkonofalski 4y ago
Yes, that's exactly it. There's no market for manual transmissions except for a very small minority of users.