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I concluded that Windows has a better window management too. It is no coincidence that Mac users have hundreds of windows open while Windows users stay relative

I concluded that Windows has a better window management too. It is no coincidence that Mac users have hundreds of windows open while Windows users stay relatively organized. I tried out uBar for Mac OS https://ubarapp.com/ https://ubarapp.com/. Too buggy though.

tinus_hn 4y ago
Windows has such great window management its users have much less windows open and thus manage much less windows than the MacOS, which has such bad window management its users manage hundreds of windows. It does not make a whole lot of sense.
- samuelstros 4y ago
  I see where you are coming from. Windows has great window management = less chaos, less orphan open windows Mac OS has inferior window management = chaos, hundreds of open windows The main reasons stems from the fact that Windows open window discoverability is higher. Open windows are always displayed in the menu bar. MacOS only displays the app icon but provides no information about the open windows except for pressing F3. I hope that answer makes sense.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    Mac OS displays exactly the same information, Windows groups windows under one icon as well. Windows shows miniatures of the windows on hover, Mac OS pops them all up to the foreground if you click the icon and lists them on right click/control click. This theory makes little sense.
    - samuelstros 4y ago
      This theory is a subtle UX difference with larger outcomes. MacOS requires additional steps to see open windows while Windows does not. The right click Mac OS solution is the best example. By default, right click on MacOS is deactivated. Even if someone right clicks on an app icon, that person has to click AND process the titles windows instead of seeing a visual preview as on Windows of the window.
      - tinus_hn 4y ago
        So when you start asking questions, that terrible UI becomes a subtle UX difference. That’s why this is all armchair designery about pet issues. You may like the way Windows works, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean MacOS works ‘terribly’. It’s mostly just different from what you’re used to.
        samuelstros 4y ago
        What is your intention? Nobody said that macOS has "terrible UI". Some people expressed that the window management in MacOS is inferior to Windows. I laid out UX reasons why macOS window management is inferior to Windows. I will not participate in further discussion.
        tinus_hn 4y ago
        Upon review that is correct, apparently I confused this thread with another one.
        samuelstros 4y ago
        Thanks for the clarification. I was irritated about the goal of the discussion :)
    - ngrilly 4y ago
      In my experience, the miniatures showed by Windows on hover are very convenient. I miss them a bit on Mac. And also the ability to quickly snap windows on sides or corners.
rubyist5eva 4y ago
> It is no coincidence that Mac users have hundreds of windows open while Windows users stay relatively organized. Personally, I leave tons of windows open because I feel no need to keep things "organized". I rarely feel the need to constantly micro manage things that are running because cmd+tab and cmd+` along with mission control/expose/spaces makes it pretty simple to find what I'm looking for. My individual windows go into pretty specific positions and they rarely move, and I also rarely fully close applications.

tinus_hn 4y ago

Windows has such great window management its users have much less windows open and thus manage much less windows than the MacOS, which has such bad window management its users manage hundreds of windows. It does not make a whole lot of sense.

samuelstros 4y ago
I see where you are coming from. Windows has great window management = less chaos, less orphan open windows Mac OS has inferior window management = chaos, hundreds of open windows The main reasons stems from the fact that Windows open window discoverability is higher. Open windows are always displayed in the menu bar. MacOS only displays the app icon but provides no information about the open windows except for pressing F3. I hope that answer makes sense.
- tinus_hn 4y ago
  Mac OS displays exactly the same information, Windows groups windows under one icon as well. Windows shows miniatures of the windows on hover, Mac OS pops them all up to the foreground if you click the icon and lists them on right click/control click. This theory makes little sense.
  - samuelstros 4y ago
    This theory is a subtle UX difference with larger outcomes. MacOS requires additional steps to see open windows while Windows does not. The right click Mac OS solution is the best example. By default, right click on MacOS is deactivated. Even if someone right clicks on an app icon, that person has to click AND process the titles windows instead of seeing a visual preview as on Windows of the window.
    - tinus_hn 4y ago
      So when you start asking questions, that terrible UI becomes a subtle UX difference. That’s why this is all armchair designery about pet issues. You may like the way Windows works, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean MacOS works ‘terribly’. It’s mostly just different from what you’re used to.
      - samuelstros 4y ago
        What is your intention? Nobody said that macOS has "terrible UI". Some people expressed that the window management in MacOS is inferior to Windows. I laid out UX reasons why macOS window management is inferior to Windows. I will not participate in further discussion.
        tinus_hn 4y ago
        Upon review that is correct, apparently I confused this thread with another one.
        samuelstros 4y ago
        Thanks for the clarification. I was irritated about the goal of the discussion :)
  - ngrilly 4y ago
    In my experience, the miniatures showed by Windows on hover are very convenient. I miss them a bit on Mac. And also the ability to quickly snap windows on sides or corners.

rubyist5eva 4y ago

> It is no coincidence that Mac users have hundreds of windows open while Windows users stay relatively organized. Personally, I leave tons of windows open because I feel no need to keep things "organized". I rarely feel the need to constantly micro manage things that are running because cmd+tab and cmd+` along with mission control/expose/spaces makes it pretty simple to find what I'm looking for. My individual windows go into pretty specific positions and they rarely move, and I also rarely fully close applications.