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I have mixed feelings about how successful this will be. The 32GB of RAM is really cool for the price - but 8cx Gen 3 is still no M1. It's still significantly s

I have mixed feelings about how successful this will be. The 32GB of RAM is really cool for the price - but 8cx Gen 3 is still no M1. It's still significantly slower than an 11th Gen laptop Core i5. Probably not super fun to develop on, even if serviceable - but considering nobody has cared about Windows on ARM to this point, why would you spend $599 to suddenly care about it, when WoA has far less than 1% of Windows PC marketshare? Because Microsoft says it's the future? Microsoft is the worst at these promises. That's what they said about Windows 8, then Windows RT, the Windows Phone, the Windows Phone 8 platform, Windows 10 Mobile, UWP in General, the Windows Store, the relaunched Windows Store, Windows on ARM years ago, Project Reunion with XAML islands, Windows 10 S, Windows 10 X, Desktop Converter Bridge, the iOS Converter Bridge... I suppose they kept their promises with DirectX and that kind of thing. Right now, developer apathy for Windows is nearly insurmountable, and has been for the last decade, and Microsoft's constant changing of directions does not instill confidence. https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-8cx-gen-3-intel-apple-3068879/ https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-8cx-gen-3-intel-...

lostmsu 4y ago
Windows Store and Desktop Bridge work though. You are right about everything else.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  Yes... and no. The Windows Store works way better now than it used to, back in 2015. Now it's finally serviceable, but it's still loaded with junk that makes the iOS App Store look well-maintained. Discoverability is still poor (better than it used to be), and the number of people actually using it also remains low. So... it works, but it was hardly the future of app distribution on Windows. As for the Desktop Converter, it's in the same boat. For the first few years, all it was, was a pile of PowerShell scripts. No GUI, mediocre documentation, run a pile of scripts to package your app for a Store almost nobody uses. Also the command to package the app requires Windows 10 Pro and, like, 30 command-line arguments that had to be perfect in order to work. Now it has a GUI, and more people use the Store than before, but the Store has abandoned the need to use it and now allows just directly downloading unpackaged Exes, rendering it mostly pointless.
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sedatk 4y ago
On the other hand, Microsoft had spot on bets on operating systems, Internet, 64-bit, cloud, gaming consoles, managed runtimes, programming languages, high-end consumer PCs, Linux integration, and open source (albeit late). Yes, they might have dropped the ball on more than one thing. You're especially right about Windows app ecosystem today, but it's not like Microsoft is constantly failing. They're doing phenomenal job on many fronts. They're certainly not that easy to write off.

lostmsu 4y ago

Windows Store and Desktop Bridge work though. You are right about everything else.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
Yes... and no. The Windows Store works way better now than it used to, back in 2015. Now it's finally serviceable, but it's still loaded with junk that makes the iOS App Store look well-maintained. Discoverability is still poor (better than it used to be), and the number of people actually using it also remains low. So... it works, but it was hardly the future of app distribution on Windows. As for the Desktop Converter, it's in the same boat. For the first few years, all it was, was a pile of PowerShell scripts. No GUI, mediocre documentation, run a pile of scripts to package your app for a Store almost nobody uses. Also the command to package the app requires Windows 10 Pro and, like, 30 command-line arguments that had to be perfect in order to work. Now it has a GUI, and more people use the Store than before, but the Store has abandoned the need to use it and now allows just directly downloading unpackaged Exes, rendering it mostly pointless.

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sedatk 4y ago

On the other hand, Microsoft had spot on bets on operating systems, Internet, 64-bit, cloud, gaming consoles, managed runtimes, programming languages, high-end consumer PCs, Linux integration, and open source (albeit late). Yes, they might have dropped the ball on more than one thing. You're especially right about Windows app ecosystem today, but it's not like Microsoft is constantly failing. They're doing phenomenal job on many fronts. They're certainly not that easy to write off.