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A sour attitude definitely wasn't intended. Meta has some misleading marketing and we wanted to correct that. Apart from that we're just comparing our products,
by kanetw 4y ago
A sour attitude definitely wasn't intended. Meta has some misleading marketing and we wanted to correct that. Apart from that we're just comparing our products, as the Quest Pro (unlike the Quest 2) does indeed intrude on our niche.
- laweijfmvo 4y agoWasn't the whole point of the initial subpoena complaint, "we're not a competitor to Meta?" and now that it's dropped, you're arguing why you're a competitor?
- kanetw 4y agoThe Quest Pro wasn't announced when they subpoenaed us.
- gretch 4y agoOkay, so if you got re-subpoenaed for being a competitor tomorrow, will you comply with the subpoena given that your original argument is now invalid?
- altairprime 4y ago(On behalf of lawyers everywhere, I encourage OP not to reply to this question. I am not their lawyer, this is not legal advice.)
- gnarbarian 4y agodo you think this was a sneaky trap set up by meta?
- dylan604 4y agowhether it is or not doesn't make "don't respond to internet trolls", "don't make public comments about ongoing litigation", etc bad advice.
- gnarbarian 4y agoI never implied it was bad advice. I agree wholeheartedly. It seems like 4d chess to me. Trick Your adversary into a particular defense which you are prepared to demolish. I'd be impressed by it if a single meta lawyer's salary wasn't more then the entire simulaVR budget. as such it looks more like a giant evil corporation having it's way with a small defenseless individual just trying to manifest their own vision for VR.
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- jamiek88 4y ago
- dang 4y agoPlease don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html p.s. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33326851 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33326851 also.
- shafyy 4y agoCome on. It wasn't announced officially, but it was leaked all over the place and there were almost no surprises in the official announcment, including that they're going to focus more on work not only gaming. As others have said, I love what youre doing with Simula, and the subpoena was out of place from Meta, but you've got to work on your communication.
- xeromal 4y agoIt seems strange to think they were compelled to compare themselves to a potential product in a court case.
- onepointsixC 4y agoThe Quest Pro wasn't a shocking development. Meta has been openly talking about their productivity VR/AR ambitions.
- georgewsinger 4y agoBut we've also been openly declaring these claims to not have any teeth, for almost a year now: https://simulavr.com/blog/we-dont-want-the-metaverse/ https://simulavr.com/blog/we-dont-want-the-metaverse/ TLDR: That post is from 2021, and we basically said that Meta's product vision is to start with a social network/gaming platform first, and then backwards engineer productivity into it as a third use case; whereas we want to start with productive VR computing as our first and only focus, and engineer everything we do around that.
- koolala 4y agoThe Quest 3 will be really interesting. If they can really lower the price of the Pro to $300. I'm excited for the Deckard as well but doubt it will be near $400. My main concern with the future is Ergonomics. We are practically talking about a cybernetic-interface here. It isn't cheap or easy to solve. Above all else I feel like people really just hate having a thing strapped to their face.
- fhd2 4y agoFWIW, "intrude on our niche" sounds pretty sour. It's not _all_ bad to have competition, especially someone with a bad rep like Meta/Facebook.