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Open Skies was a net loser for the US. The Russians were abusing the system and everyone who "counts" either has recce satellites of their own or access to repo
by aerostable_slug 4y ago
Open Skies was a net loser for the US. The Russians were abusing the system and everyone who "counts" either has recce satellites of their own or access to reporting from friendly nations.
Aegis GMD has zero effectiveness against a missile field filled with SS-19s, or mobile SS-27s, or anything else that poses an existential threat to the United States. Russia knows this. "Destabilizing" would be an order of magnitude increase in the GMD interceptors at Greely and Vandenberg and the proliferation of battle management radars, and we aren't doing that.
And if you weren't paying attention, there's no "restart" of the arms race. While the US was involved in the -stans, Russia was moving forward with a variety of delivery systems. The race never stopped.
- twelve40 4y ago> Aegis GMD has zero effectiveness against a missile field filled with SS-19s, or mobile SS-27s, or anything else that poses an existential threat so... why is it there then? just curious. I think the official publicly touted reason at the time was to protect Romania from Iran, is that it?
- riku_iki 4y agoearly warning system for US defense?
- aerostable_slug 4y agoIran.
- twelve40 4y agoso it's "useless" for ss27s but then "Iran"? how does that make sense? This is Romania not Israel, so this is not tactical.
- aerostable_slug 4y agoIt's useful for the MRBMs/IRBMs out of Iran targeting Europe. It's useless for the ICBMs out of Russia targeting the United States. It's not destabilizing in any way, especially since the magazine size of the Aegis sites is easily verifiable via any number of means, and the easiest countermeasure is N+! (which the Russians have in spades).
- VictorPath 4y ago> It's not destabilizing in any way At the beginning of this year, the CFR's Foreign Policy magazine said it might be destabilizing. Russia invaded the Ukraine a few months later. So you say the US putting these military systems around eastern Europe was not a destabilizing move, but I think the past months has shown otherwise.
- chipsa 4y agoIt's 0 effectiveness for the US. It's got some effectiveness for Europe. It's not just the site in Romania, but also a site in Poland: https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/03/09/construction-of-aegis-ashore-in-poland-nearing-completion/ https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/03/09/construction...