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I am generally sympathetic to student loan exploitation. I took out student loans, but responsibly held a job through college and paid them off once I got my fi
by Test0129 4y ago
I am generally sympathetic to student loan exploitation. I took out student loans, but responsibly held a job through college and paid them off once I got my first real programming job (at 50k/year!)
> That's the trick they use on kids to get them to sign up for these loans. You don't have to pay it until you graduate. Sometimes until you get a job. Sometimes they don't even tell you until when.
MOST student loans do not accrue interest while in college. The problem comes when you exceed that limit and start to take out other loans. Perhaps to go to a better school. But to imply that most students pay interest during college is nonsense. Yes school is expensive. Even my no name local University was expensive. But I had 30k of loans at graduation, not 200k. Parents are just as responsible here. Loan companies can only exploit your kid if you let them. We have a generation of people terrible with money encouraging the same behavior in the youth. It's this intersection of idiots that is the problem. The schools encourage it to fund new facilities, the loan companies encourage it because its free money to them. The parents encourage it by teaching their bad money habits to their children.
> Don't get me wrong we do need computer science graduates. It's just that most are not in it for computer science jobs. They are in for web programming and Apps. It's nothing new see people studying one thing and ending up in a completely opposite career space.
The purpose of going to school is not to get a job it's to learn to think. Often times, having the ability to think confers a higher salary than not. In particular, STEM program rigor creates people who are HIGHLY adaptable to most fields. Hence why you see them everywhere.
In summary the problem is not the loans, it's that they are not dischargeable. Make them dischargable and the problem goes away.
- glasss 4y ago> But to imply that most students pay interest during college is nonsense. I didn't read that line as any implication that interest accrues during college. I didn't read anything like that in the blog. But I definitely agree with your later point that parents shoulder a lot of responsibility here, and their own parents or education institutions for not teaching them more about money management. > The purpose of going to school is not to get a job it's to learn to think. While I agree, the issue is that career advisors and entire school systems are explicitly told to advise their high school students that they must go to college, regardless of their interests, hobbies, goals, or lack of goals. I'm not exaggerating. My friend who taught high school physics was scolded by school administration for not being a college evangelist. "The kids who live in [wealthier neighboring town] don't get told to go work in the trades, they get told to go to college, and our kids deserve the same". While noble, the fact is that college for most kids nowadays is seen as the only option to get a _career_ instead of _just a job_.
- onemoresoop 4y agoMy sister took a 20k loan for which she paid the minimum monthy the equivalent of 40k. Now the loan is at 100k and whatever she paid never covered the principal at all. How this is not predatory is beyond me