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> as soon as a tiny thing is asked of us to better the course Well, I also see a lot of people who do the tiny thing but not the big thing. Plenty of people ar

> as soon as a tiny thing is asked of us to better the course Well, I also see a lot of people who do the tiny thing but not the big thing. Plenty of people around me are reducing their meat intake (and are vocal about it), because climate change, but still fly on airplanes, some multiple times a year. It's so incredibly frustrating that many people are just green washing their lives, but are oblivious to the fact they're not really doing much at all. I do have massive respect for the people I do know that have quit eating meat and are now doing all their travels by train.

fleddr 4y ago
Respectfully, I think your take on this does not work. If before you have a frequent flyer that regularly eats meat, and next they stop eating meat, that is to be celebrated. It's still massive progress. Further, their footprint from flying may improve over time as airlines are investing in sustainability. From flying 3 times a year to 2 times a year is big progress. From eating lots of meat to somewhat less, is progress. By implying footprint perfection, it all becomes very reductive and people will reject it. With that mindset, you'll be able to find "dirt" on anyone. I mean, how very polluting must David Attenborough be? As for bettering the course regarding insects, I wasn't even suggesting CO2 reduction. Just introducing some small spaces where wildflowers can grow, and they will come. It takes almost nothing.
- donkeyd 4y ago
  > From flying 3 times a year to 2 times a year is big progress. These people are going from 0-1 time a year to 2-3 times a year, because they're starting to earn more and can therefore take more trips. They are ignorant to the fact that's more wasteful than eating meat. This is typical personal green-washing, which is the part that annoys me. I understand that perfect is the enemy of good and I'm not implying that everyone should be perfect.

fleddr 4y ago

Respectfully, I think your take on this does not work. If before you have a frequent flyer that regularly eats meat, and next they stop eating meat, that is to be celebrated. It's still massive progress. Further, their footprint from flying may improve over time as airlines are investing in sustainability. From flying 3 times a year to 2 times a year is big progress. From eating lots of meat to somewhat less, is progress. By implying footprint perfection, it all becomes very reductive and people will reject it. With that mindset, you'll be able to find "dirt" on anyone. I mean, how very polluting must David Attenborough be? As for bettering the course regarding insects, I wasn't even suggesting CO2 reduction. Just introducing some small spaces where wildflowers can grow, and they will come. It takes almost nothing.

donkeyd 4y ago
> From flying 3 times a year to 2 times a year is big progress. These people are going from 0-1 time a year to 2-3 times a year, because they're starting to earn more and can therefore take more trips. They are ignorant to the fact that's more wasteful than eating meat. This is typical personal green-washing, which is the part that annoys me. I understand that perfect is the enemy of good and I'm not implying that everyone should be perfect.