From the thread: > Maybe the most frustrating thing for me is how often I'm working with people who are apologetic and unsure BECAUSE of these derailments > Th

From the thread: > Maybe the most frustrating thing for me is how often I'm working with people who are apologetic and unsure BECAUSE of these derailments > They think it's their fault! They think they're not capable of doing things BECAUSE they keep getting fucked with by this user-hostile crap So much this. I have similar conversations with my family all the time. My mom actually uses a hoke computer for business related stuff more than anybody. At one point a few years back after some Windows update that messed some things up I booted a vanilla linux mint off a USB and had her play around with it. She liked it because it was simple and easy to understand, so she's been with thay for a few years.