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Yeah, the failure is unlikely to be on the platform side. I visited a police station in person to report a $3000 fraud with clear evidence and also document fo

by dannyw 4y ago

Yeah, the failure is unlikely to be on the platform side. I visited a police station in person to report a $3000 fraud with clear evidence and also document forgery. Police told me to get a lawyer, gave me the fraud report but told me I'm wasting my time if I fill it out. I've also had a stolen laptop, tracked with Find my Mac, and again, police handed me the report form and told me to contact my insurance.

club_tropical 4y ago
I hear you guys on the (relatively small time) financial fraud / theft, but the article mentions far worse. If you went to the police with a video and PII of a violent crime, would they still not open an investigation?
- donkeyd 4y ago
  > If you went to the police with a video and PII of a violent crime, would they still not open an investigation? The short answer... It depends. People always assume a lot of things when they imply that video evidence makes something an easy case to solve. Identifying people in videos isn't as easy as it seems, for example. It's also not safe to assume that the person posting a video is also the person who filmed it, nor that the location data is correct. So who's the suspect? Also, where does TikTok send the video? Do they send it to Police in a city where a video is geo tagged, or where it was uploaded, or where the user account was created? This type of stuff seems trivial when reading an article like this, but it isn't in real life. It's all stuff that may take weeks to figure out and all that time can't be spent on other cases. So yes, sometimes (maybe even often) such reports don't lead to cases. And even if they did, there's no guarantee it would lead to anything.
canucklady 4y ago
Cops are too busy making 6 figures directing traffic and hanging out inside their idling SUVs all day to investigate any kind of property crime. I'm sure they would say they just need even more money to buy more guns and then they would help.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Why stack up on the door of a real criminal who might get jumpy and shoot back when you can just bother soft targets. Follow the incentives...
criddell 4y ago
My dad was an auto mechanic and they had one of the garage vehicles stolen. The thieves broke a window, grabbed a set of keys, and took off with the car. The police came out, took a report and were leaving and the garage manager asked what the police would do next? Would somebody come and dust for prints? The cop said something like "What's your deductible? Something like $250? Well how much work do you think we should do for $250?" (this was in the 80's).

by dannyw 4y ago

club_tropical 4y ago

I hear you guys on the (relatively small time) financial fraud / theft, but the article mentions far worse. If you went to the police with a video and PII of a violent crime, would they still not open an investigation?

donkeyd 4y ago
> If you went to the police with a video and PII of a violent crime, would they still not open an investigation? The short answer... It depends. People always assume a lot of things when they imply that video evidence makes something an easy case to solve. Identifying people in videos isn't as easy as it seems, for example. It's also not safe to assume that the person posting a video is also the person who filmed it, nor that the location data is correct. So who's the suspect? Also, where does TikTok send the video? Do they send it to Police in a city where a video is geo tagged, or where it was uploaded, or where the user account was created? This type of stuff seems trivial when reading an article like this, but it isn't in real life. It's all stuff that may take weeks to figure out and all that time can't be spent on other cases. So yes, sometimes (maybe even often) such reports don't lead to cases. And even if they did, there's no guarantee it would lead to anything.

canucklady 4y ago

Cops are too busy making 6 figures directing traffic and hanging out inside their idling SUVs all day to investigate any kind of property crime. I'm sure they would say they just need even more money to buy more guns and then they would help.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Why stack up on the door of a real criminal who might get jumpy and shoot back when you can just bother soft targets. Follow the incentives...

criddell 4y ago

My dad was an auto mechanic and they had one of the garage vehicles stolen. The thieves broke a window, grabbed a set of keys, and took off with the car. The police came out, took a report and were leaving and the garage manager asked what the police would do next? Would somebody come and dust for prints? The cop said something like "What's your deductible? Something like $250? Well how much work do you think we should do for $250?" (this was in the 80's).