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I think NKRFZ had a video about a weird genre of pro-war fiction that is published en mass in Russia and promoted quite alot, but which does not really sell.

coldtea 4y ago
Pro-war fiction? That's like the standard movie for several decades from Rambo to Michael Bay's epics and Top Gun Maverick, and in movie form that has far wider appeal, 10000x the audiences, and is way more glamorous! "weird pro war fiction" would be very low in effectiveness...
- oriolid 4y ago
  Reminds me of the "long tail effect". One work of weird pro war fiction is not enough, but different customised propaganda for every niche might be something.
- rideontime 4y ago
  michael bay and top gun, sure, but rambo? I don't remember that having a particularly pro-war attitude.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    That's because you've erased Rambo 2+ from your memory :)
  - OOPMan 4y ago
    That's because it's about PTSD. I suspect the commenter is either ignorant or just decided to roll in all the terrible sequels...
    - Dracophoenix 4y ago
      The first one, yes. But in every sequel to the original, he's transformed into the stereotypical loose-cannon action hero.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      Rambo is a franchize. Why not roll in all the sequels? All those were huge when we were kids, and Rambo was synonymous with "macho super-soldier killings thousands on his own with bazookas", not "PTSD soldier back home from Vietnam is persecuted by local authority figures".
- OOPMan 4y ago
  The original Rambo was actually anti-war. Did you even watch it?
  - coldtea 4y ago
  - floxy 4y ago
    Everyone should read the book (First Blood by David Morrell). I haven't watched the movies, since in my mind Stallone is type-cast as someone who doesn't seem smart enough to play Rambo. But my recollection from 30+ years ago is that the book is an excellent page-turner and might be the originator of the thriller genre. Also, spoiler alert Rambo dies at the end of the book.
vanderZwan 4y ago
That assumes selling is the point. What if drowning out other voices is the real goal?
- coldtea 4y ago
  Then they're doing a bad job at it :)
  - vanderZwan 4y ago
    That's good to hear at least :) But I imagine that abusing SEO to ensure search results don't show people the results they actually want to see (or maybe "need to see", but that's quite the can of worms to open) is a legitimate tactic in any propaganda machine.

coldtea 4y ago

Pro-war fiction? That's like the standard movie for several decades from Rambo to Michael Bay's epics and Top Gun Maverick, and in movie form that has far wider appeal, 10000x the audiences, and is way more glamorous! "weird pro war fiction" would be very low in effectiveness...

oriolid 4y ago
Reminds me of the "long tail effect". One work of weird pro war fiction is not enough, but different customised propaganda for every niche might be something.
rideontime 4y ago
michael bay and top gun, sure, but rambo? I don't remember that having a particularly pro-war attitude.
- coldtea 4y ago
  That's because you've erased Rambo 2+ from your memory :)
- OOPMan 4y ago
  That's because it's about PTSD. I suspect the commenter is either ignorant or just decided to roll in all the terrible sequels...
  - Dracophoenix 4y ago
    The first one, yes. But in every sequel to the original, he's transformed into the stereotypical loose-cannon action hero.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    Rambo is a franchize. Why not roll in all the sequels? All those were huge when we were kids, and Rambo was synonymous with "macho super-soldier killings thousands on his own with bazookas", not "PTSD soldier back home from Vietnam is persecuted by local authority figures".
OOPMan 4y ago
The original Rambo was actually anti-war. Did you even watch it?
- coldtea 4y ago
- floxy 4y ago
  Everyone should read the book (First Blood by David Morrell). I haven't watched the movies, since in my mind Stallone is type-cast as someone who doesn't seem smart enough to play Rambo. But my recollection from 30+ years ago is that the book is an excellent page-turner and might be the originator of the thriller genre. Also, spoiler alert Rambo dies at the end of the book.

vanderZwan 4y ago

That assumes selling is the point. What if drowning out other voices is the real goal?

coldtea 4y ago
Then they're doing a bad job at it :)
- vanderZwan 4y ago
  That's good to hear at least :) But I imagine that abusing SEO to ensure search results don't show people the results they actually want to see (or maybe "need to see", but that's quite the can of worms to open) is a legitimate tactic in any propaganda machine.