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When I was a 10 or something we used to gather together and watch tv with neighbours kids, we used to borrow things from our neighbours! My mother and other kid

When I was a 10 or something we used to gather together and watch tv with neighbours kids, we used to borrow things from our neighbours! My mother and other kids mothers used to sit and have tea and chitchat and spend time together. It was to the point that we could go to our friends house anytime and maybe even sit and have lunch with them (no invitation or preparation was needed). Comparing that with today small town that I live it feels more like people are living in in isolation cells rather than a community.

jasmer 4y ago
Yes, 'Families' are a fairly foundational artifact of the '3rd space' concept. It's a bit of a sensitive social issue which relates to 'someone at home', obviously almost always the mother. I have no doubt whatsoever that women having the chance to work, contribute etc. is very material progress, at the same time, I have no doubt that 'homemakers' add tremendous value. The former we measure in terms of productivity, GDP etc. the later, again, it's 'externalized' from our data and language, and kind of 'shamed' a bit in some circles so we just don't talk about it. In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects so I'm always shocked to see this kind of data which shows substantial numbers of women (relative to men) preferring to stay at home. It's still about 50% [1]. I've seen other, more nuanced data that puts it a bit more subtly: men mostly prefer to work full time (but definitely not all), women substantially prefer to work part time with almost equal cohorts wanting full time work vs. stay at home full time. I think the 'part time' concept rings interesting, because it may feel aspirational or 'best of both worlds' for at least some people (men included) who kind of want to spend time with young children, but not be 'locked in the home'. And finally, we are living a lot longer and so ratio of families with children is smaller, which affects the numbers. [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer-working-homemaking.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer...
- cloudier 4y ago
  > In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects Given that women’s participation in the labor force in the US passed 50% in the 1970s (well within living memory!), this is pretty optimistic :)
- 4gotunameagain 4y ago
  > In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects so I'm always shocked to see this kind of data It is almost as if humans have gender/sex related predispositions and are not a tabula rasa for the society to scribe on, as the far left would like to claim.. I would suggest the Blueprint by Robert Plomin, a fascinating read.
aspyct 4y ago
I do miss the "show up and mess about" part of my childhood lives. However, did that disappear because of the technology, or because I became an adult?

jasmer 4y ago

Yes, 'Families' are a fairly foundational artifact of the '3rd space' concept. It's a bit of a sensitive social issue which relates to 'someone at home', obviously almost always the mother. I have no doubt whatsoever that women having the chance to work, contribute etc. is very material progress, at the same time, I have no doubt that 'homemakers' add tremendous value. The former we measure in terms of productivity, GDP etc. the later, again, it's 'externalized' from our data and language, and kind of 'shamed' a bit in some circles so we just don't talk about it. In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects so I'm always shocked to see this kind of data which shows substantial numbers of women (relative to men) preferring to stay at home. It's still about 50% [1]. I've seen other, more nuanced data that puts it a bit more subtly: men mostly prefer to work full time (but definitely not all), women substantially prefer to work part time with almost equal cohorts wanting full time work vs. stay at home full time. I think the 'part time' concept rings interesting, because it may feel aspirational or 'best of both worlds' for at least some people (men included) who kind of want to spend time with young children, but not be 'locked in the home'. And finally, we are living a lot longer and so ratio of families with children is smaller, which affects the numbers. [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer-working-homemaking.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer...

cloudier 4y ago
> In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects Given that women’s participation in the labor force in the US passed 50% in the 1970s (well within living memory!), this is pretty optimistic :)
4gotunameagain 4y ago
> In 2022 I kind of just assume the world is fairly gender-less in most respects so I'm always shocked to see this kind of data It is almost as if humans have gender/sex related predispositions and are not a tabula rasa for the society to scribe on, as the far left would like to claim.. I would suggest the Blueprint by Robert Plomin, a fascinating read.

aspyct 4y ago

I do miss the "show up and mess about" part of my childhood lives. However, did that disappear because of the technology, or because I became an adult?