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I miss this about working from home. Wake up, put laptop on my legs, I'm at the office. Now I gotta burn gas, wake up earlier, get dressed. Just to do the same

I miss this about working from home. Wake up, put laptop on my legs, I'm at the office. Now I gotta burn gas, wake up earlier, get dressed. Just to do the same exact thing only in a different box. Maddening.

Bilal_io 4y ago
I left a job a year ago because they were forcing us back to the office. I am happily working remotely with a company that coincidentally decided to go fully remote right before COVID, so there is no going back since the teams are now distributed. Oh and I got a salary bump with it.
- elforce002 4y ago
  Congrats! WFH is here to stay. And this newly found benefit is threatening managers and companies in general since this gives us bargaining power now that even SMBs and startups can offer you WFH as a benefit. Thank God we're learning that quality of life >>> more money but in a cubicle.
systemvoltage 4y ago
- ycombinete 4y ago
  I understand what you are saying. Especially as someone with ADHD, the level of self control required, and lack of routine, in WFH make each day feel like a tiny battle that I’m always almost losing. The aesthetic of that strictly ordered salary man lifestyle is quite beautiful from here.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    I was making a caricature out of it but honestly, I would like 1) A quiet place at work (not at home) 2) Formal meetings with agenda and strict meeting notes 3) Telephones, yes real clunking telephones that you can pick up and call your coworkers. No slack, no non-sense. 3) Great email system that isn't tied to Google Suite 4) Excellent stationery 5) No HR department. None. Zero.
    - BLKNSLVR 4y ago
      All the parts of me that agree with you (and I love these parts of me) are parts that I try to, somehow, both suppress and maintain. Suppress: in order to stay abreast of the changing world. Maintain: in order to have a sanity-saving anchor to the real-world I'm familiar with. > 4) Excellent stationery Just thinking about this gave me the kind of excited thrill that could passingly be mistaken for sexual.
    - pelasaco 4y ago
      in some areas people are doing exactly like that. I know some teachers, doing exactly like that. Back to the 90s. No whatsapp, no mobile, just a phone to be called from 8-15h. Parents cannot call the teacher at 19:30 to talk about little Hans that got a 3 in science, and no whatsapp at 3 AM from the school director saying that a teacher is in sick call and somebody have to jump in.
- willbw 4y ago
  They sell black ties and white shirts still, perhaps you can buy them and live out this fantasy.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    But there are no old school cubicle offices to go to anymore. Offices have turned into hotel lobbies where nothing happens except terrible software engineering using Jira and some HR bullshit to deal with. Great coffee though. Actually, just realized, if an office space has bad coffee, it'd probably be my type of a place.
    - pelasaco 4y ago
      My company turned their office where every engineer had their own room in an open-space dance floor. 60% of the engineer team became remote after that. But HR and Marketing loved this change.
      - HWR_14 4y ago
        A literal dance floor or an open-floorplan office?
        pelasaco 4y ago
        open-floorplan with music where people from marketing, hr, sales talk loud while going to infinite smoke breaks
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      Old school is an office with a door or someone's garage.
    - skowalak 4y ago
      I hate Jira as much as the next guy, but I think you are confusing what you hate about some type of company with what you think the reasons are for 'terrible software engineering'. The coffee at my office is very bad though, so maybe you want to apply there.
- cercatrova 4y ago
  Maybe that works for your dad, but not everyone has the same chronotype nor do they have the same preferences. Don't impose what you want on everyone else.
- keiferski 4y ago
  I agree with your dad. We have lost a lot of intrinsic culture by making everything as remote and relaxed as possible.
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Bilal_io 4y ago

I left a job a year ago because they were forcing us back to the office. I am happily working remotely with a company that coincidentally decided to go fully remote right before COVID, so there is no going back since the teams are now distributed. Oh and I got a salary bump with it.

elforce002 4y ago
Congrats! WFH is here to stay. And this newly found benefit is threatening managers and companies in general since this gives us bargaining power now that even SMBs and startups can offer you WFH as a benefit. Thank God we're learning that quality of life >>> more money but in a cubicle.

systemvoltage 4y ago

ycombinete 4y ago
I understand what you are saying. Especially as someone with ADHD, the level of self control required, and lack of routine, in WFH make each day feel like a tiny battle that I’m always almost losing. The aesthetic of that strictly ordered salary man lifestyle is quite beautiful from here.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  I was making a caricature out of it but honestly, I would like 1) A quiet place at work (not at home) 2) Formal meetings with agenda and strict meeting notes 3) Telephones, yes real clunking telephones that you can pick up and call your coworkers. No slack, no non-sense. 3) Great email system that isn't tied to Google Suite 4) Excellent stationery 5) No HR department. None. Zero.
  - BLKNSLVR 4y ago
    All the parts of me that agree with you (and I love these parts of me) are parts that I try to, somehow, both suppress and maintain. Suppress: in order to stay abreast of the changing world. Maintain: in order to have a sanity-saving anchor to the real-world I'm familiar with. > 4) Excellent stationery Just thinking about this gave me the kind of excited thrill that could passingly be mistaken for sexual.
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    in some areas people are doing exactly like that. I know some teachers, doing exactly like that. Back to the 90s. No whatsapp, no mobile, just a phone to be called from 8-15h. Parents cannot call the teacher at 19:30 to talk about little Hans that got a 3 in science, and no whatsapp at 3 AM from the school director saying that a teacher is in sick call and somebody have to jump in.
willbw 4y ago
They sell black ties and white shirts still, perhaps you can buy them and live out this fantasy.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  But there are no old school cubicle offices to go to anymore. Offices have turned into hotel lobbies where nothing happens except terrible software engineering using Jira and some HR bullshit to deal with. Great coffee though. Actually, just realized, if an office space has bad coffee, it'd probably be my type of a place.
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    My company turned their office where every engineer had their own room in an open-space dance floor. 60% of the engineer team became remote after that. But HR and Marketing loved this change.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      A literal dance floor or an open-floorplan office?
      - pelasaco 4y ago
        open-floorplan with music where people from marketing, hr, sales talk loud while going to infinite smoke breaks
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    Old school is an office with a door or someone's garage.
  - skowalak 4y ago
    I hate Jira as much as the next guy, but I think you are confusing what you hate about some type of company with what you think the reasons are for 'terrible software engineering'. The coffee at my office is very bad though, so maybe you want to apply there.
cercatrova 4y ago
Maybe that works for your dad, but not everyone has the same chronotype nor do they have the same preferences. Don't impose what you want on everyone else.
keiferski 4y ago
I agree with your dad. We have lost a lot of intrinsic culture by making everything as remote and relaxed as possible.
TheGigaChad 4y ago
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