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> Am I the only one that feels like jobs that are good enough to warrant a 2-3 year tenure are actually rare? If good teams and good leaders are rare, you migh

> Am I the only one that feels like jobs that are good enough to warrant a 2-3 year tenure are actually rare? If good teams and good leaders are rare, you might want to re-examine your company selection process. In my experience, it's easy to find bad jobs if you just let the winds of the industry carry you around from job to job. Bad companies always have high turnover, which means they're always hiring. They may even pay above market because that's the only way they can continue bringing people in to replace everyone who's leaving. The good jobs are often more selective about their hiring. Many of them may not even post public listings. Going through a network is much more efficient for selecting into the good companies.

cratermoon 4y ago
> it's easy to find bad jobs if you just let the winds of the industry carry you around from job to job Can confirm. If you're young and inexperienced it's easy to fall victim to recruiters who talk a good game. If you're older and can see through these, you can at least make a choice: do I need to take a job quickly for financial or other reasons? If so, you can find a lot of offers, but don't pretend these are going to be jobs you'll love. At the very least, go ahead and ask for the above-market rate. They worst they can do is say they don't have the budget. Ideally, you'd work a must-take position just long enough to get back on your feet while you hunt for the job you want. It will probably going to leave a short tenure position on your resume if you do that. Finding a job in this industry has never been especially difficult. Finding a job that you'd be willing to settle into for 3+ years is hard.
kovac 4y ago
This sounds true. Could you point out some features of a hiring process we can look out for for signs of good teams/leaders? Number of interviews, time it takes to complete the process, kind of questions they ask, etc?
bradlys 4y ago
Having worked in SV for a while and talked to many within SV... Good teams and leaders are rare. Most are garbage. Most people are just worked to death and have crazy ambition/work ethic to make stupid shit happen. There's no good way to find good teams/leadership. Often people just follow the person that has given them the most favor in their career. It doesn't mean that the manager is a good manager or a good leader - it just means that they're going to treat a particular person favorably. This is a very important distinction. I can count on one hand the amount of good leaders/managers that I've interacted with in SV and I've interacted with hundreds. It is a toxic place.

cratermoon 4y ago

> it's easy to find bad jobs if you just let the winds of the industry carry you around from job to job Can confirm. If you're young and inexperienced it's easy to fall victim to recruiters who talk a good game. If you're older and can see through these, you can at least make a choice: do I need to take a job quickly for financial or other reasons? If so, you can find a lot of offers, but don't pretend these are going to be jobs you'll love. At the very least, go ahead and ask for the above-market rate. They worst they can do is say they don't have the budget. Ideally, you'd work a must-take position just long enough to get back on your feet while you hunt for the job you want. It will probably going to leave a short tenure position on your resume if you do that. Finding a job in this industry has never been especially difficult. Finding a job that you'd be willing to settle into for 3+ years is hard.

kovac 4y ago

This sounds true. Could you point out some features of a hiring process we can look out for for signs of good teams/leaders? Number of interviews, time it takes to complete the process, kind of questions they ask, etc?

bradlys 4y ago

Having worked in SV for a while and talked to many within SV... Good teams and leaders are rare. Most are garbage. Most people are just worked to death and have crazy ambition/work ethic to make stupid shit happen. There's no good way to find good teams/leadership. Often people just follow the person that has given them the most favor in their career. It doesn't mean that the manager is a good manager or a good leader - it just means that they're going to treat a particular person favorably. This is a very important distinction. I can count on one hand the amount of good leaders/managers that I've interacted with in SV and I've interacted with hundreds. It is a toxic place.