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I guess I'm a young person? Ish? is 28 old? I'm not sure. Anyways its arrogant to say that when "the old ways" were only replaced in like the last 15-20ish yea

I guess I'm a young person? Ish? is 28 old? I'm not sure. Anyways its arrogant to say that when "the old ways" were only replaced in like the last 15-20ish years and people got on along well-enough before that without diseases of despair. IMHO the only reason "the old ways" went away wasn't because the new way is better, but rather we humans have rather lazy, addictive personalities and so its easier and simpler to utilize the new tech-based ways even when in the long run we are much worse off for it. I don't even know how you can say the old ways were worse though, when its only been 15-20 years and society has changed so much. The old ways were around for a very long time.

rafaelero 4y ago
> IMHO the only reason "the old ways" went away wasn't because the new way is better, but rather we humans have rather lazy, addictive personalities and so its easier and simpler to utilize the new tech-based ways even when in the long run we are much worse off for it. I think they are clearly better, at least in principle. Extending civil respect to LGBTs, for example, is one of the outcomes of moving away from how things were in the past. We are in general finishing the project of the individualistic society, and any institution that is holding that back (religion, traditional gender roles, etc.) is losing ground.
- ehnto 4y ago
  I am very glad for freedom for individualisn but what we haven't yet done is mend the social web so to speak. We are still all cliquing and severing into groups. Where individualism imagines a community where everyone is themselves but together, comfortable with eachothers differences, what's actually happening is everyone is free to be themselves but they are ending up alone in their immediate communities. I don't have solutions, I am just noting that we have some loose ends to follow up to make sure we can still have comfortable communities of very different individuals.

rafaelero 4y ago

> IMHO the only reason "the old ways" went away wasn't because the new way is better, but rather we humans have rather lazy, addictive personalities and so its easier and simpler to utilize the new tech-based ways even when in the long run we are much worse off for it. I think they are clearly better, at least in principle. Extending civil respect to LGBTs, for example, is one of the outcomes of moving away from how things were in the past. We are in general finishing the project of the individualistic society, and any institution that is holding that back (religion, traditional gender roles, etc.) is losing ground.

ehnto 4y ago
I am very glad for freedom for individualisn but what we haven't yet done is mend the social web so to speak. We are still all cliquing and severing into groups. Where individualism imagines a community where everyone is themselves but together, comfortable with eachothers differences, what's actually happening is everyone is free to be themselves but they are ending up alone in their immediate communities. I don't have solutions, I am just noting that we have some loose ends to follow up to make sure we can still have comfortable communities of very different individuals.