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You don't build relationships, you solve the problem you were hired to fix. Companies don't hire employees to be a preschool playpen for adults. They hire them
by thrown_22 4y ago
You don't build relationships, you solve the problem you were hired to fix.
Companies don't hire employees to be a preschool playpen for adults. They hire them to do work.
- klipt 4y agoAt least at big companies, fixing problems often requires good cross team relationships.
- thrown_22 4y agoGreat, something for management to do.
- astrange 4y agoIf you can manage your own relationships then you don’t need nearly as many managers. That’s more money for you!
- thrown_22 4y agoAnd yet I'm always paid more than lifers at a company. Funny how that works.
- lmm 4y agoSadly how many managers there are seems to have very little connection with how many are needed. If there are a lot of managers with nothing to do, they're not going to just disappear, and sadly the main way they can make themselves look busy is by wasting your time. (And I can't really blame them; I'd do the same in their place).
- eclipxe 4y agoSometimes the hardest problems to fix involve building relationships first.
- thrown_22 4y agoSounds like the management should be fired and replaced with people who are more interested in doing things instead of protecting territory.
- throwaway6734 4y agoI don't mean friendships, I mean working relationships like "who is a specialist in X", "who knows what work is coming down the pipe", etc.
- ycombobreaker 4y agoI believe this attitude goes hand-in-hand with the idea of jumping ship every few years. As an employee, your impact only extends as far as the projects handed to you. You offer no growth potential to an employer. Similarly, management that only looks for this is offering no reward for better, and deserves the attrition they'll see. There are roles and companies where growth is both valuable and rewarded. I think it has to be an org where the technology is the product, and not a cost center (necessary, but not sufficient). I think you really have to be paying attention to know what type of org you are in. Taking this attitude up-front at any new job, you may not even see the opportunity.
- thrown_22 4y agoIt's the job of management to manage. If your doing their work for them then you're helping the company fail.
- eropple 4y agoVery senior/staff/principal developers manage, too. They just don't manage direct reports.
- ycombobreaker 4y agoBinning everything that I said as "management" is basically demonstrating my point. This attitude is a self-reinforcing pigeonhole.
- bluedino 4y agoOr, it's your turn to plug the hole in a dike.