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Yes, let's simplify the Internet, being decentralised is such a crutch! We should all just connect directly to Cloudflare.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 4y ago
You go ahead and play "being decentralised" with your buddies while people in the real world just mind their own business doing whatever they need to do using the current right tool for the job(in this case Cloudflare being the tool).
- dzikimarian 4y ago
  People in the real world, who just cheerfully do business, with zero thought of impact or consequences of their actions beyond next paycheck, have put us in this awesome economic situation, we all know and enjoy. Surely blindly pushing, yet another corporation into position, where they can lobby virtually anything, is awesome idea. (Nothing against folks from cloudflare. They seem all right, but they will get acquired and/or change leadership at some point).
- anderspitman 4y ago
  In nature, a lack of genetic diversity in a species isn't typically much of a problem until there's an extinction event, and then it can be a big problem. You might not feel the downsides of having a huge percentage of the internet going through a single provider until it's too late to change it. I actually quite like Cloudflare, and I don't think they're purposely doing anything nefarious (just following incentives like everyone), but I think caution is warranted.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    At least it is not Microsoft, Google or Meta providing the monopoly! For now…
    - dzikimarian 4y ago
      15 years ago Google was considered cool :-)
      - palata 4y ago
        And 15 years ago it was cool, wasn't it?
        dzikimarian 4y ago
        Sure it was :-) sadly its true, that you either die cool or see yourself become soulless corporation.
schwartzworld 4y ago
Getting angry at people for using centralized solutions is not a way to win people over to your cause, and even many people who would prefer decentralized solutions are going to pick the easy route sometimes. If you're developing a web app, maybe you want to spend your time writing app code. People only have so much time in a day.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 4y ago

You go ahead and play "being decentralised" with your buddies while people in the real world just mind their own business doing whatever they need to do using the current right tool for the job(in this case Cloudflare being the tool).

dzikimarian 4y ago
People in the real world, who just cheerfully do business, with zero thought of impact or consequences of their actions beyond next paycheck, have put us in this awesome economic situation, we all know and enjoy. Surely blindly pushing, yet another corporation into position, where they can lobby virtually anything, is awesome idea. (Nothing against folks from cloudflare. They seem all right, but they will get acquired and/or change leadership at some point).
anderspitman 4y ago
In nature, a lack of genetic diversity in a species isn't typically much of a problem until there's an extinction event, and then it can be a big problem. You might not feel the downsides of having a huge percentage of the internet going through a single provider until it's too late to change it. I actually quite like Cloudflare, and I don't think they're purposely doing anything nefarious (just following incentives like everyone), but I think caution is warranted.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  At least it is not Microsoft, Google or Meta providing the monopoly! For now…
  - dzikimarian 4y ago
    15 years ago Google was considered cool :-)
    - palata 4y ago
      And 15 years ago it was cool, wasn't it?
      - dzikimarian 4y ago
        Sure it was :-) sadly its true, that you either die cool or see yourself become soulless corporation.

schwartzworld 4y ago

Getting angry at people for using centralized solutions is not a way to win people over to your cause, and even many people who would prefer decentralized solutions are going to pick the easy route sometimes. If you're developing a web app, maybe you want to spend your time writing app code. People only have so much time in a day.