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There are no words to express how angry that makes me. These "scientists" should do their experiments on their own children. I wish them ill.

by bambax 4y ago

DangitBobby 4y ago
How do you feel about dairy cows being separated from their young after birth? It turns out, they've managed to gather a lot of data quite on the impacts of infant separation in cows (I wonder how that happened?). To sum up, separating them almost immediately after birth results in less psychological trauma than separating them after a few days. Letting them stay together for much longer promotes better long-term health outcomes for both the mother and calf, but dairies are not equipped for that. > Separating the calf from the cow shortly after birth is a routine practice on dairy farms around the world. In brief, calves are separated from their dams within a few hours following birth and then housed in a separate location and fed artificially (with milk or milk replacer). Advocates of this practice argue that it prevents cow and calf from forming a strong bond, and thus reduces the stress associated with separation when it does occur. The results from a series of studies on the short-term acute affects support this claim (e.g. [21,22,23]). Other arguments in support of early separation include better supervision of calf colostrum and milk intake [24]. One economic argument frequently presented by farmers is that the practice facilitates harvesting the maximum amount of milk available for sale [25]. Moreover, currently used housing and husbandry systems are not designed for keeping cow-calf pairs, making a change in practice difficult. Others have also argued that immediate separation reduces the risk of disease transfer to the calf, including paratuberculosis [26]. > Arguments for later separation emphasize allowing more natural living of cow and calf [25], including emotional benefits for both [27]. Furthermore, some research has shown biological benefits for calves, including better weight gains [28] and fewer bouts of diarrhea when separated later [21], as well as improved udder [29] and uterine health [24] for cows. 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5354428/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5354428/
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pvaldes 4y ago
> These "scientists" should do their experiments on their own children. I wish them ill. Your argument would be much solid if you sign a paper renouncing to any benefit that could happen by their research, for you or your family. If not, well... "They should kill their children to save mine" sounds a little hypocritical (and pretty unhinged also).
- bambax 4y ago

There are no words to express how angry that makes me. These "scientists" should do their experiments on their own children. I wish them ill.

by bambax 4y ago

There are no words to express how angry that makes me. These "scientists" should do their experiments on their own children. I wish them ill.

DangitBobby 4y ago

How do you feel about dairy cows being separated from their young after birth? It turns out, they've managed to gather a lot of data quite on the impacts of infant separation in cows (I wonder how that happened?). To sum up, separating them almost immediately after birth results in less psychological trauma than separating them after a few days. Letting them stay together for much longer promotes better long-term health outcomes for both the mother and calf, but dairies are not equipped for that. > Separating the calf from the cow shortly after birth is a routine practice on dairy farms around the world. In brief, calves are separated from their dams within a few hours following birth and then housed in a separate location and fed artificially (with milk or milk replacer). Advocates of this practice argue that it prevents cow and calf from forming a strong bond, and thus reduces the stress associated with separation when it does occur. The results from a series of studies on the short-term acute affects support this claim (e.g. [21,22,23]). Other arguments in support of early separation include better supervision of calf colostrum and milk intake [24]. One economic argument frequently presented by farmers is that the practice facilitates harvesting the maximum amount of milk available for sale [25]. Moreover, currently used housing and husbandry systems are not designed for keeping cow-calf pairs, making a change in practice difficult. Others have also argued that immediate separation reduces the risk of disease transfer to the calf, including paratuberculosis [26]. > Arguments for later separation emphasize allowing more natural living of cow and calf [25], including emotional benefits for both [27]. Furthermore, some research has shown biological benefits for calves, including better weight gains [28] and fewer bouts of diarrhea when separated later [21], as well as improved udder [29] and uterine health [24] for cows. 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5354428/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5354428/

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pvaldes 4y ago

> These "scientists" should do their experiments on their own children. I wish them ill. Your argument would be much solid if you sign a paper renouncing to any benefit that could happen by their research, for you or your family. If not, well... "They should kill their children to save mine" sounds a little hypocritical (and pretty unhinged also).

bambax 4y ago