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1) fix your link 2) This absolutely does not match my experience: I needed an employer to declare that they couldn't find a Swede to employ before I was allow

by mrkeen 4y ago

1) fix your link 2) This absolutely does not match my experience: I needed an employer to declare that they couldn't find a Swede to employ before I was allowed into the country. 2 years in I needed to renew my residence+work permit (submitting evidence that my income hadn't deceased, etc.). Another 2 years in I needed to renew again - achieving a permanent residence+work visa. Only after that could I apply for citizenship, which is still underway. 3) my experience obviously relates to how the law has worked thus far. The government has only just changed from the leftish incumbent party to a right-wing coalition, so it probably doesn't make sense to judge the current state of the country by laws which will now no doubt be changed.

mberglof 4y ago
1) Agreed, it's broken 2) If you are not a citizen of another EU country (or a country with some special agreement) you will likely have to enter on a holiday/work/student VISA which should prove that you can support yourself whilst in Sweden. After five years you can apply to become a citizen and there's no test in place to judge you Swedish-ish-ness. (Nobody will quiz you about which year our old king skied on one ski from Mora to Salen.. for now) I think the point of the previous comment was that it's too easy to get a citizenship for "immigrants" (refugees), not for economic immigrants that choose to move to Sweden for Fun And Profits/Shits And Giggles. We're all equal under the law, it's just that diffent laws apply to each of us. 3) The law is unlikely to change before 2025 (link below) when you might be tested on which year the Swedish challenger to the headed for refuge (yeah.. ironic) in Norway. P.S. Congrats for sticking with it even if my government forced you to do paperwork TWICE in five years :P https://www.regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/statens-offentliga-utredningar/2021/01/sou-20212/ https://www.regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/statens-offentl... (Swedish, sorry) https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Apply-for-citizenship/Citizenship-for-adults.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/... (checked as of writing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasaloppet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasaloppet
- TMWNN 4y ago
  My thanks to you for providing the current URL for the page I referenced in my earlier comment. >We're all equal under the law, it's just that diffent laws apply to each of us. Indeed. I invite everyone curious to visit the above-mentioned page; as I stated, note the total absence of any language or employment requirement for obtaining Swedish citizenship.
TMWNN 4y ago
>1) fix your link Done (albeit in a reply to myself, as it is too late to edit my comment); I apologize for that. >2) This absolutely does not match my experience: I invite everyone to peruse the link that berglof kindly provided the current version of, at <https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Apply-for-citizenship/Citizenship-for-adults.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...>. Note the total absence of any language or employment requirement for obtaining Swedish citizenship.

by mrkeen 4y ago

mberglof 4y ago

1) Agreed, it's broken 2) If you are not a citizen of another EU country (or a country with some special agreement) you will likely have to enter on a holiday/work/student VISA which should prove that you can support yourself whilst in Sweden. After five years you can apply to become a citizen and there's no test in place to judge you Swedish-ish-ness. (Nobody will quiz you about which year our old king skied on one ski from Mora to Salen.. for now) I think the point of the previous comment was that it's too easy to get a citizenship for "immigrants" (refugees), not for economic immigrants that choose to move to Sweden for Fun And Profits/Shits And Giggles. We're all equal under the law, it's just that diffent laws apply to each of us. 3) The law is unlikely to change before 2025 (link below) when you might be tested on which year the Swedish challenger to the headed for refuge (yeah.. ironic) in Norway. P.S. Congrats for sticking with it even if my government forced you to do paperwork TWICE in five years :P https://www.regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/statens-offentliga-utredningar/2021/01/sou-20212/ https://www.regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/statens-offentl... (Swedish, sorry) https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Apply-for-citizenship/Citizenship-for-adults.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/... (checked as of writing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasaloppet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasaloppet

TMWNN 4y ago
My thanks to you for providing the current URL for the page I referenced in my earlier comment. >We're all equal under the law, it's just that diffent laws apply to each of us. Indeed. I invite everyone curious to visit the above-mentioned page; as I stated, note the total absence of any language or employment requirement for obtaining Swedish citizenship.

TMWNN 4y ago

>1) fix your link Done (albeit in a reply to myself, as it is too late to edit my comment); I apologize for that. >2) This absolutely does not match my experience: I invite everyone to peruse the link that berglof kindly provided the current version of, at <https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Apply-for-citizenship/Citizenship-for-adults.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...>. Note the total absence of any language or employment requirement for obtaining Swedish citizenship.