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Speech can get people to maim and kill, too. Sometimes with surprising efficiency. And when a technology is outlawed, the power that it bestows upon humanity co
by kuramitropolis 4y ago
Speech can get people to maim and kill, too. Sometimes with surprising efficiency. And when a technology is outlawed, the power that it bestows upon humanity concentrates in the outlaws. For sure, information and communication technology are an interesting edge case of that general principle.
- blfr 4y ago
- albatruss 4y agoThe USA threw 100k+ of its own citizens in concentration camps, stripping them of property and leaving them in poverty after the war. Not exactly a shining moment for principles.
- TheCondor 4y agoHow has the first amendment been compromised?
- themitigating 4y agoCan you show me examples of widespread censorship due to misgendering?
- concordDance 4y agoReddit is a good example.
- themitigating 4y agoReddit is a website
- dudeinjapan 4y agoLiterally all major platform websites--Youtube, Tiktok, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.--ban all posts which contain misgendering and deadnaming as part of their broader "hate speech" policies. Agree or not, this is "censorship", and it is "widespread". It is hard to show examples of censored content because it is, you know, censored. But you can try some posts for yourself on these platforms and see how it goes. https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hateful-conduct-policy https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hateful-condu... https://decisionmagazine.com/facebook-says-misgendering-considered-hate-speech/ https://decisionmagazine.com/facebook-says-misgendering-cons... https://www.npr.org/2022/02/09/1079643611/tiktok-bans-deadnaming-misgendering https://www.npr.org/2022/02/09/1079643611/tiktok-bans-deadna...
- themitigating 4y agoI disagree, in my opinion censorship is when an authority, like the government, punishes speech. If I uses the nword on twitter and get banned would that be censorship? It's listed with deadnaming in the TOS
- dudeinjapan 4y agoSo, you don't consider multi-trillion dollar valued companies, whose annual revenues are greater than the GDP of the majority of countries in the world, and who have sole control over platforms used by over 1/3 the world's entire population, to be "authorities" capable of censorship. OK, well, good luck then.
- themitigating 4y agoNo, because you can use another product. The government can fine or send you to jail.
- dudeinjapan 4y agoLiterally all major products currently have similar censorship rules, no matter which one you choose. Re: countries, "you can move to another country." The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
- ookdatnog 4y agoIf you believe the post-WW2 USA was a free speech paradise with no political persecution, you have some reading to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_scare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_scare
- pjc50 4y agoThere is specific provision in German law precisely because of the concentration camps: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-ant...
- oneplane 4y agoYou seem to forget that this AI doesn't really give a crap about your arbitrary borders, a document or an amendment to that document. You also seem forget that even if it did, most people don't live in the same country under the same jurisdiction, so even if everything you think and feel turns out to be true, it still doesn't help the conversation at all. On top of that, you also seem to be trying to mix-and-match rules for institutions and rules for private entities as you see fit which is also not how any of this works.