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I also find this annoying, but I think it’s mostly an American/European thing. It’s not only about tech, we do this with kids, over protecting it. We do the s

I also find this annoying, but I think it’s mostly an American/European thing. It’s not only about tech, we do this with kids, over protecting it. We do the same with food. It’s a trade off. When you pay super attention to the food, sure it’s safer. But your communities become a bit boring without any street food, no night market, etc. I prefer living on the other side of the world. Less safety but more personal freedom

Bakary 4y ago
The tradeoff depends on your social class. The Westerners who have the resources to move to SEAsia/China etc. or the upper-class people from those countries who return there will find themselves freer there because they by definition have the resources to take advantage of the situation. If you are a middle-class or lower-class local citizen, the stability and boredom of the EU sounds much more appealing. Instead of personal freedom, there is the crushing weight of the system around them. They have street food but have to work 996 in polluted conditions.
- soueuls 4y ago
  It's still a tradeoff, in modern countries, the state slowly replaces older structures (like family). It's safer. But little by little, you end up with people who don't do much than living outside of big cities, commuting back and forth, going back home to watch Netflix and order some food. Working conditions in SEAsia are still not as good. But it's affordable to eat outside, it's affordable to enjoy a lot of social time with family and friends. Friends and family, colleagues, low paid workers will meet together several times a week. I am from France, my mother used to be a factory worker, she had more money, but I don't think she was happier. I am pretty sure it was the opposite actually. She felt a lot more isolated.
kthejoker2 4y ago
The opposite of food regulations isn't food trucks, it's The Jungle - salmonella and lysine poisoning eveywhwere, people ground up into meat in the factories, products adulterated with all kinds of chemicals, byproducts, filler ...
- soueuls 4y ago
  What I notice, is that countries with strong regulations don't have street food, night markets. Because these are chaotic. Once your country goes down the regulation road it's not possible anymore. - What about the cold chain? - What if people pay with cash and don't pay taxes? - What about noises? - Isn't it dangerous. Sure your food is safer, but social life slowly erode.
pixl97 4y ago
>but I think it’s mostly an American/European thing. Are you trying to say that China is perfectly fine with creating dangerous AI? Well at least until starts spitting out millions of transmogrified Winnie the Xi images.
- soueuls 4y ago
  Yes I say it. I have studied at Tsinghua University, it's easier to conduct research there. There is pressure due to political correctness. Be it in science like AI and humanities.

Bakary 4y ago

The tradeoff depends on your social class. The Westerners who have the resources to move to SEAsia/China etc. or the upper-class people from those countries who return there will find themselves freer there because they by definition have the resources to take advantage of the situation. If you are a middle-class or lower-class local citizen, the stability and boredom of the EU sounds much more appealing. Instead of personal freedom, there is the crushing weight of the system around them. They have street food but have to work 996 in polluted conditions.

soueuls 4y ago
It's still a tradeoff, in modern countries, the state slowly replaces older structures (like family). It's safer. But little by little, you end up with people who don't do much than living outside of big cities, commuting back and forth, going back home to watch Netflix and order some food. Working conditions in SEAsia are still not as good. But it's affordable to eat outside, it's affordable to enjoy a lot of social time with family and friends. Friends and family, colleagues, low paid workers will meet together several times a week. I am from France, my mother used to be a factory worker, she had more money, but I don't think she was happier. I am pretty sure it was the opposite actually. She felt a lot more isolated.

kthejoker2 4y ago

The opposite of food regulations isn't food trucks, it's The Jungle - salmonella and lysine poisoning eveywhwere, people ground up into meat in the factories, products adulterated with all kinds of chemicals, byproducts, filler ...

soueuls 4y ago
What I notice, is that countries with strong regulations don't have street food, night markets. Because these are chaotic. Once your country goes down the regulation road it's not possible anymore. - What about the cold chain? - What if people pay with cash and don't pay taxes? - What about noises? - Isn't it dangerous. Sure your food is safer, but social life slowly erode.

pixl97 4y ago

>but I think it’s mostly an American/European thing. Are you trying to say that China is perfectly fine with creating dangerous AI? Well at least until starts spitting out millions of transmogrified Winnie the Xi images.

soueuls 4y ago
Yes I say it. I have studied at Tsinghua University, it's easier to conduct research there. There is pressure due to political correctness. Be it in science like AI and humanities.