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Code is also machinery and infrastructure though, it can interact with the physical world in material ways, and because of that it will probably end up regulate

by ehnto 4y ago

Code is also machinery and infrastructure though, it can interact with the physical world in material ways, and because of that it will probably end up regulated. AI is all fun and games when it's data, but if it's being used to make decisions about how to take actions in the physical world I think it's fair that it follows some protocols each society gives it. Making a picture of a cat from a learned model, writing a book with a model, cool, whatever. Deciding who gets their house raided, or when to apply the brakes on an EV, or what drugs should be administered to a patient, we probably want to make sure the apparatus that does this, which includes the code, the data and the models, is held to some rules a society agrees upon.

t-3 4y ago
And those rules seem to be: nobody gets to inspect, question, or even see the model. Just accept the output without any recourse, like good little peasants.
throwaway049 4y ago
I recently saw a presentation from someone trying to build a predictive model for violent incidents in mental healthcare settings. They took steps to prevent the model considering race because this could potentially lead to less favorable treatment for some groups. The model was unable to give any useful predictions. I don't know if it would perform better without the deliberate limitations, but I do know that healthcare staff are making their own judgements in it's absence.
zarzavat 4y ago
I completely agree with the principle that legal entities: businesses and governments should have their use of AI restricted. Facial recognition, for example, is a danger to society. But the development and proliferation of AI by extralegal entities cannot be stopped. Individuals, foreign researchers, foreign business, etc will keep pushing the frontier of AI forward indefinitely. AI can be regulated but it cannot be controlled.

by ehnto 4y ago

t-3 4y ago

And those rules seem to be: nobody gets to inspect, question, or even see the model. Just accept the output without any recourse, like good little peasants.

throwaway049 4y ago

I recently saw a presentation from someone trying to build a predictive model for violent incidents in mental healthcare settings. They took steps to prevent the model considering race because this could potentially lead to less favorable treatment for some groups. The model was unable to give any useful predictions. I don't know if it would perform better without the deliberate limitations, but I do know that healthcare staff are making their own judgements in it's absence.

zarzavat 4y ago

I completely agree with the principle that legal entities: businesses and governments should have their use of AI restricted. Facial recognition, for example, is a danger to society. But the development and proliferation of AI by extralegal entities cannot be stopped. Individuals, foreign researchers, foreign business, etc will keep pushing the frontier of AI forward indefinitely. AI can be regulated but it cannot be controlled.