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Brexit is an emotional topic and people are still hung up to it and so quick to blame it for anything that goes wrong. But really budget issues are due to the

Brexit is an emotional topic and people are still hung up to it and so quick to blame it for anything that goes wrong. But really budget issues are due to the Covid response and so are many economic problems right now. Inflation is partly caused by Covid, also by the strong Dollar and the 'energy crisis'. Most of the 'energy crisis' is actually the result of decades of policy choices. So IMHO Brexit is only marginal is the current 'top of the agenda' issues.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
Brexit, it is true, did not cause any of the external troubles such as war and pandemic that are causing cascading issues throughout the world, not just the UK. How ever Brexit, and the consequent need for people in power in the UK to be unrealistic at best, as is stated in the David Frum quote, very much shapes the _UK_'s ability to deal with these shocks in a realistic way. Have you not heard the criticism that "these are serious times, and they are not serious people". it was said about Johnson and co in 2021 (I think) but it hasn't gotten any less true, quite the opposite. If you're going to compare how the UK is facing these challenges vs. other comparable countries, then Brexit and its adherents is a factor, if not "the" factor.
- epicureanideal 4y ago
  Johnson and co I agree are not serious people, but they shouldn’t even be given any credit or blame for Brexit. They probably wouldn’t have even cared about it other than the influence of Farage.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    > Johnson ... shouldn’t even be given any credit or blame for Brexit That is certainly an option, but is not a serious one: > Get Brexit Done was a political slogan frequently used by the British Conservative Party and former Prime Minister Boris Johnson in the run up to the 2019 general election. The slogan reflected the party's pledge to, if re-elected, facilitate the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union by the end of January the following year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Brexit_Done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Brexit_Done

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago

Brexit, it is true, did not cause any of the external troubles such as war and pandemic that are causing cascading issues throughout the world, not just the UK. How ever Brexit, and the consequent need for people in power in the UK to be unrealistic at best, as is stated in the David Frum quote, very much shapes the _UK_'s ability to deal with these shocks in a realistic way. Have you not heard the criticism that "these are serious times, and they are not serious people". it was said about Johnson and co in 2021 (I think) but it hasn't gotten any less true, quite the opposite. If you're going to compare how the UK is facing these challenges vs. other comparable countries, then Brexit and its adherents is a factor, if not "the" factor.

epicureanideal 4y ago
Johnson and co I agree are not serious people, but they shouldn’t even be given any credit or blame for Brexit. They probably wouldn’t have even cared about it other than the influence of Farage.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  > Johnson ... shouldn’t even be given any credit or blame for Brexit That is certainly an option, but is not a serious one: > Get Brexit Done was a political slogan frequently used by the British Conservative Party and former Prime Minister Boris Johnson in the run up to the 2019 general election. The slogan reflected the party's pledge to, if re-elected, facilitate the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union by the end of January the following year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Brexit_Done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Brexit_Done