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That article fails to explain why White isn't capitalized. It just claims in a very tautological manner that "capitalizing the word in this context risks follow

That article fails to explain why White isn't capitalized. It just claims in a very tautological manner that "capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists."

kbenson 4y ago
I think it fairly clearly made a case that in transporting people for slavery we stripped them of a lot of cultural identity, and now a lot of their identity is the lack of a prior one and their prior treatment in our nation, while white people often have other cultural identities and history to fall back on. Whether you agree with that or not is one thing, but I'm not sure why you're ignoring it.
- just-ok 4y ago
  Well, it does completely ignore the cultural identity of African-descendant people who don’t have slaves as ancestors (some of which were actually facilitators of said transportations, as well, but I suppose that’s tangential).
  - barry-cotter 4y ago
    Also erasing the difference between descendants of slaves from the Americas and the descendants of people who were enslaved in the US. Colin Powell and Kamala Harris are the first without being the second.
tsol 4y ago
In America, Black people as a whole are a distinct cultural group with their own foods, words, holidays, mannerisms, and media. The are in the special case where they don't identify with their ancestral lands because all culture pertaining to that was forcibly stripped away. White people, at least in America, aren't a group with shared culture. The only thing that really unites them is the color of their skin. White people also tend to have an actual ancestral culture they identify with highly-- usually the culture of a European country their predecessors emigrated from. And as far as I know the vast majority of them don't want to identify as 'white', as they value their ancestral culture more.
- jeofken 4y ago
  So a black person who moved from Africa is then lower-case black, because they are not part of the Black (uppercase) culture?
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Potentially; you’ll see lots of Nigerian-Americans and Somali-Americans due to recent immigration, where they know their ancestry.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      Not just knowledge, but stronger ties to those places. As generations go by, they may assimilate into the larger Black culture or not.
- TexanFeller 4y ago
  What on earth, white people in America certainly do share a culture, it’s called American culture. I think and hope that black Americans share the same culture too. Actually I oversimplify slightly because I do see differences in coastal elite vs middle American cultures. The differences between I, a Texan, and someone from California or New York seem far greater than the trivial differences in culture I’ve seen between myself and Texans of _any_ other race, ethnicity, or gender/sexual orientation.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    You spend the first part of your comment claiming their is a white culture, and the rest of the comment saying its a transracial American culture. Except for the first half of your sentence, you are exactly correct. White people (and black people) share an American culture. White people often have additional cultural (e.g. Irish-American or Italian-American) with distinct food or holidays or music or whatever. It's those uses that Black culture refers to.

That article fails to explain why White isn't capitalized. It just claims in a very tautological manner that "capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists."

kbenson 4y ago

I think it fairly clearly made a case that in transporting people for slavery we stripped them of a lot of cultural identity, and now a lot of their identity is the lack of a prior one and their prior treatment in our nation, while white people often have other cultural identities and history to fall back on. Whether you agree with that or not is one thing, but I'm not sure why you're ignoring it.

just-ok 4y ago
Well, it does completely ignore the cultural identity of African-descendant people who don’t have slaves as ancestors (some of which were actually facilitators of said transportations, as well, but I suppose that’s tangential).
- barry-cotter 4y ago
  Also erasing the difference between descendants of slaves from the Americas and the descendants of people who were enslaved in the US. Colin Powell and Kamala Harris are the first without being the second.

tsol 4y ago

In America, Black people as a whole are a distinct cultural group with their own foods, words, holidays, mannerisms, and media. The are in the special case where they don't identify with their ancestral lands because all culture pertaining to that was forcibly stripped away. White people, at least in America, aren't a group with shared culture. The only thing that really unites them is the color of their skin. White people also tend to have an actual ancestral culture they identify with highly-- usually the culture of a European country their predecessors emigrated from. And as far as I know the vast majority of them don't want to identify as 'white', as they value their ancestral culture more.

jeofken 4y ago
So a black person who moved from Africa is then lower-case black, because they are not part of the Black (uppercase) culture?
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Potentially; you’ll see lots of Nigerian-Americans and Somali-Americans due to recent immigration, where they know their ancestry.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Not just knowledge, but stronger ties to those places. As generations go by, they may assimilate into the larger Black culture or not.
TexanFeller 4y ago
What on earth, white people in America certainly do share a culture, it’s called American culture. I think and hope that black Americans share the same culture too. Actually I oversimplify slightly because I do see differences in coastal elite vs middle American cultures. The differences between I, a Texan, and someone from California or New York seem far greater than the trivial differences in culture I’ve seen between myself and Texans of _any_ other race, ethnicity, or gender/sexual orientation.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  You spend the first part of your comment claiming their is a white culture, and the rest of the comment saying its a transracial American culture. Except for the first half of your sentence, you are exactly correct. White people (and black people) share an American culture. White people often have additional cultural (e.g. Irish-American or Italian-American) with distinct food or holidays or music or whatever. It's those uses that Black culture refers to.