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>Let me reiterate: that requires for it occur to a student that you even can increase your SAT score. If you are a high school student and the possibility of i

>Let me reiterate: that requires for it occur to a student that you even can increase your SAT score. If you are a high school student and the possibility of increasing your score doesn't even occur to you, I would suggest that college isn't for you.

dTal 4y ago
Would you study for an IQ test? Perhaps, but then is that fair? If you do, what is actually being measured? Certainly not IQ anymore. Maybe it doesn't occur to students that they should attempt to increase their score because they have a certain innocent model of the world, perhaps one in which they put trust in educational institutions to (as they claim to do) tell them how they should best achieve personal success. If it were a valuable use of their time, surely someone would tell them? Reminder: you are responding to a commenter who is telling you that an offhand comment literally changed their life.
- patrick451 4y ago
  If an IQ test were required for admission to university or anything else I wanted to do, you're damn right I would study. Why would I care if that is fair or if I corrupt the measurement by studying if increasing my score benefits me? The validity of the measurement is the school's problem, not mine.
  - appletrotter 4y ago
    It seems like you might have a history of applying adaptive behaviors, that is good. How have you avoided maladaptive behaviors, perhaps such as procrastinating or distracting oneself with substance? Do you believe that nature or nurture has played a larger role in your healthy response to environmental pressures?
- StanislavPetrov 4y ago
  >Would you study for an IQ test? I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. >Maybe it doesn't occur to students that they should attempt to increase their score In my opinion, if it doesn't occur to someone that they can better their score on any test by studying, then they aren't ready for college. Studying isn't some sort of arcane concept available only to the privileged few. >Reminder: you are responding to a commenter who is telling you that an offhand comment literally changed their life. This is Hacker News, not a struggle session. It isn't disrespectful to tell people they aren't equipped and/or ready for higher education. It is one thing to argue that some people don't have the resources to access study courses, materials or have the free time to do so (due to work requirements or living conditions), it is entirely another thing to suggest that it would never occur to a college candidate that studying for a test would improve their chances of doing well. >because they have a certain innocent model of the world, perhaps one in which they put trust in educational institutions to (as they claim to do) tell them how they should best achieve personal success. If it were a valuable use of their time, surely someone would tell them? Perhaps this comment will inform some potential college-bound student, who has otherwise had their life crippled by a childlike dependence on whatever information (or lack thereof) was spoon-fed to them by incompetent school authorities, that studying will help increase their test scores. That would be a win-win!
  - nomel 4y ago
    > I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. This makes the very large assumption that you’re aware the SAT has anything to do with your future, and that’s it’s not another one of the half dozen standardized tests that you take every year, neither of which was communicated in my public school. I’ve heard from many that my school was not unique.
  - junofan 4y ago
    I mean, in high school did it occur to you how to become a fighter pilot? College is about as far removed as flight school in some people’s lives.
  - warbler73 4y ago
    > I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. When I was really little a teacher referred me for a Stanford-Binet test, which was administered one on one by a psychiatrist. I did not know at the time what this test was, what a psychiatrist was, or that it would be consequential to my future since I tested above the range of the test and was put into a gifted program and thus got to avoid classes with students screaming and throwing chairs. How should I have studied for the Stanford-Binet and what would have happened to my score if I did? What resources or guides do you use when studying for an IQ test and which would you recommend as suitable for someone 5 years old?

dTal 4y ago

Would you study for an IQ test? Perhaps, but then is that fair? If you do, what is actually being measured? Certainly not IQ anymore. Maybe it doesn't occur to students that they should attempt to increase their score because they have a certain innocent model of the world, perhaps one in which they put trust in educational institutions to (as they claim to do) tell them how they should best achieve personal success. If it were a valuable use of their time, surely someone would tell them? Reminder: you are responding to a commenter who is telling you that an offhand comment literally changed their life.

patrick451 4y ago
If an IQ test were required for admission to university or anything else I wanted to do, you're damn right I would study. Why would I care if that is fair or if I corrupt the measurement by studying if increasing my score benefits me? The validity of the measurement is the school's problem, not mine.
- appletrotter 4y ago
  It seems like you might have a history of applying adaptive behaviors, that is good. How have you avoided maladaptive behaviors, perhaps such as procrastinating or distracting oneself with substance? Do you believe that nature or nurture has played a larger role in your healthy response to environmental pressures?
StanislavPetrov 4y ago
>Would you study for an IQ test? I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. >Maybe it doesn't occur to students that they should attempt to increase their score In my opinion, if it doesn't occur to someone that they can better their score on any test by studying, then they aren't ready for college. Studying isn't some sort of arcane concept available only to the privileged few. >Reminder: you are responding to a commenter who is telling you that an offhand comment literally changed their life. This is Hacker News, not a struggle session. It isn't disrespectful to tell people they aren't equipped and/or ready for higher education. It is one thing to argue that some people don't have the resources to access study courses, materials or have the free time to do so (due to work requirements or living conditions), it is entirely another thing to suggest that it would never occur to a college candidate that studying for a test would improve their chances of doing well. >because they have a certain innocent model of the world, perhaps one in which they put trust in educational institutions to (as they claim to do) tell them how they should best achieve personal success. If it were a valuable use of their time, surely someone would tell them? Perhaps this comment will inform some potential college-bound student, who has otherwise had their life crippled by a childlike dependence on whatever information (or lack thereof) was spoon-fed to them by incompetent school authorities, that studying will help increase their test scores. That would be a win-win!
- nomel 4y ago
  > I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. This makes the very large assumption that you’re aware the SAT has anything to do with your future, and that’s it’s not another one of the half dozen standardized tests that you take every year, neither of which was communicated in my public school. I’ve heard from many that my school was not unique.
- junofan 4y ago
  I mean, in high school did it occur to you how to become a fighter pilot? College is about as far removed as flight school in some people’s lives.
- warbler73 4y ago
  > I'd study for any test that was consequential to my future. When I was really little a teacher referred me for a Stanford-Binet test, which was administered one on one by a psychiatrist. I did not know at the time what this test was, what a psychiatrist was, or that it would be consequential to my future since I tested above the range of the test and was put into a gifted program and thus got to avoid classes with students screaming and throwing chairs. How should I have studied for the Stanford-Binet and what would have happened to my score if I did? What resources or guides do you use when studying for an IQ test and which would you recommend as suitable for someone 5 years old?