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Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to, and that public schools should be run differently so as to eliminate the advantage of rich

Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to, and that public schools should be run differently so as to eliminate the advantage of rich people just circumventing them, ya dig?

davidgay 4y ago
> Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to, and that public schools should be run differently so as to eliminate the advantage of rich people just circumventing them, ya dig? I'm all for that point, I grew up in Switzerland which on the whole exemplifies that attitude (make sure the schools are good). But "we should fix the schools" is not a counter-argument to the fact that current admission inequity is primarily driven by socio-economic status.
- robomartin 4y ago
  > current admission inequity is primarily driven by socio-economic status Maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough? If admission is based on testing and our schools are top-of-the-line, kids would not any problem at all passing the test. We need better education before university. Make that happen and admission isn't an issue. Beyond that, the world is wide open now. There are tons of universities anyone can attend remotely and get a degree. Some have very permissive admission policies.
robomartin 4y ago
> Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to Precisely correct. Our public schools should be the example the entire world tries to emulate rather than the substandard mess they use as something to avoid. As a kid I had the experience of attending school in other countries due to my parents moving around for work. The best example I have of just how bad things are in K-12 education in the US is that coming back to US schools felt like a vacation, a joke. My level of preparation when compared to US students of the same age almost didn't compare. I could read, write and do math better than anyone in my class. And that's after attending school at a third world country. That says a lot.

Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to, and that public schools should be run differently so as to eliminate the advantage of rich people just circumventing them, ya dig?

davidgay 4y ago

> Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to, and that public schools should be run differently so as to eliminate the advantage of rich people just circumventing them, ya dig? I'm all for that point, I grew up in Switzerland which on the whole exemplifies that attitude (make sure the schools are good). But "we should fix the schools" is not a counter-argument to the fact that current admission inequity is primarily driven by socio-economic status.

robomartin 4y ago
> current admission inequity is primarily driven by socio-economic status Maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough? If admission is based on testing and our schools are top-of-the-line, kids would not any problem at all passing the test. We need better education before university. Make that happen and admission isn't an issue. Beyond that, the world is wide open now. There are tons of universities anyone can attend remotely and get a degree. Some have very permissive admission policies.

robomartin 4y ago

> Well that's cause his _actual_ point is that they shouldn't have to Precisely correct. Our public schools should be the example the entire world tries to emulate rather than the substandard mess they use as something to avoid. As a kid I had the experience of attending school in other countries due to my parents moving around for work. The best example I have of just how bad things are in K-12 education in the US is that coming back to US schools felt like a vacation, a joke. My level of preparation when compared to US students of the same age almost didn't compare. I could read, write and do math better than anyone in my class. And that's after attending school at a third world country. That says a lot.