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You don't think the m1 based stuff kinda raised the bar again? I'm hardly an apple fanboi, my house has been something of halfway house/shelter for abandoned c

You don't think the m1 based stuff kinda raised the bar again? I'm hardly an apple fanboi, my house has been something of halfway house/shelter for abandoned corporate dell's and lenovo's for many years.. but dang everything I see about those m1 chips is impressive, and I dont recall hearing a single serious complaint about the laptops. That's said.. so long as you don't go too underpowered on the cpu, and put an nvme drive in it, almost all modern laptops are pretty amazing, and they last so much longer in terms of useful life. A 2000 era Satellite Pro was almost certainly junk after 3-4 years. My newest laptop is 3 years old right now.

alexvoda 4y ago
I think the Apple Mx generation of Macs first of all fixed a series of issues Apple previously inflicted on the Mac (bad keyboards, insufficient cooling, touchbar, etc.) and did indeed raise the bar FOR MACs. Apple Mx means more power, more battery life, more passive cooling and more compatibility with iOS apps for Macs. However, Apple Silicon is not likely to influence the rest of the industry, for now, because Qualcomm is shit and doesn't care and everyone else who wants an Arm CPU for a notebook is stuck with Qualcomm. Therefore x86-64 will dominate unchallenged. Proper nice looking design on a Windows compatible device (since the MacBook brand and MacOS X Tiger with BootCamp) was a much more industry wide influential aspect, especially since the transition to uni-body construction. Previously, iBooks and PowerBooks were nice looking too, but they were rarely cross-shopped. Today, all brands have aluminium notebooks. Switching to High Density displays by default was an industry wide influential move. Non-removable batteries were maybe the most influential move. And I kinda hate them for it. Arguably, there are ways to make the battery replaceable even in today's thin devices. But Apple proved to the market that consumers do not care about removable batteries in any kind of device so now phones tablets and laptops have non-removable batteries, often times glued. Soldering CPU, RAM and WiFi, was also influential, in a bad way, though they are arguably necessary tradeoffs. Thankfully no one copied their proprietary flash storage non-SSD, yet. Even the TouchBar was copied by Lenovo and Dell, without even learning why it was hated and why it was loved. It was hated because it replaced the Fn-key row even though it was a genuinely awesome HID. Hopefully no one copies the notched screen, because while on macOS it is not an issue because of the global menu bar, on any other OS it would be major annoyance. P.S.: I actually still have a P4 era Toshiba Satellite and it still works even if the hinge is a bit weak. It survived admirably better then some other notebooks I have.
- nikau 4y ago
  Funny, my Dell Inspiron 9300 had wuxga (1920x1200) in 2005. The best mac laptop at the time was 1680x1050 and almost double the price. Like everything Apple, they don't invent it or be the first, but they know how to market it to the average muppet to suddenly want it.
  - darthrupert 4y ago
    Who before Apple invented an ARM processor that blows away its x86 competition in nearly every way?
    - nikau 4y ago
      I can think of a lot of laptops that support more than 24gb ram, hell a thinkpad p15 can do over 5 times an macbook.
      - darthrupert 4y ago
        You did not answer my question at all.

alexvoda 4y ago

I think the Apple Mx generation of Macs first of all fixed a series of issues Apple previously inflicted on the Mac (bad keyboards, insufficient cooling, touchbar, etc.) and did indeed raise the bar FOR MACs. Apple Mx means more power, more battery life, more passive cooling and more compatibility with iOS apps for Macs. However, Apple Silicon is not likely to influence the rest of the industry, for now, because Qualcomm is shit and doesn't care and everyone else who wants an Arm CPU for a notebook is stuck with Qualcomm. Therefore x86-64 will dominate unchallenged. Proper nice looking design on a Windows compatible device (since the MacBook brand and MacOS X Tiger with BootCamp) was a much more industry wide influential aspect, especially since the transition to uni-body construction. Previously, iBooks and PowerBooks were nice looking too, but they were rarely cross-shopped. Today, all brands have aluminium notebooks. Switching to High Density displays by default was an industry wide influential move. Non-removable batteries were maybe the most influential move. And I kinda hate them for it. Arguably, there are ways to make the battery replaceable even in today's thin devices. But Apple proved to the market that consumers do not care about removable batteries in any kind of device so now phones tablets and laptops have non-removable batteries, often times glued. Soldering CPU, RAM and WiFi, was also influential, in a bad way, though they are arguably necessary tradeoffs. Thankfully no one copied their proprietary flash storage non-SSD, yet. Even the TouchBar was copied by Lenovo and Dell, without even learning why it was hated and why it was loved. It was hated because it replaced the Fn-key row even though it was a genuinely awesome HID. Hopefully no one copies the notched screen, because while on macOS it is not an issue because of the global menu bar, on any other OS it would be major annoyance. P.S.: I actually still have a P4 era Toshiba Satellite and it still works even if the hinge is a bit weak. It survived admirably better then some other notebooks I have.

nikau 4y ago
Funny, my Dell Inspiron 9300 had wuxga (1920x1200) in 2005. The best mac laptop at the time was 1680x1050 and almost double the price. Like everything Apple, they don't invent it or be the first, but they know how to market it to the average muppet to suddenly want it.
- darthrupert 4y ago
  Who before Apple invented an ARM processor that blows away its x86 competition in nearly every way?
  - nikau 4y ago
    I can think of a lot of laptops that support more than 24gb ram, hell a thinkpad p15 can do over 5 times an macbook.
    - darthrupert 4y ago
      You did not answer my question at all.