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Can’t wait for their post in 3 or so years about moving their workloads back to the cloud.

WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
It could even be reasonable because (gasp!) the cloud might change yet again. But I'm rather positive it won't.
simplotek 4y ago
> Can’t wait for their post in 3 or so years about moving their workloads back to the cloud. What leads you to believe that paying a premium to someone else to use their computers is a solution that fits each and every single case? Even AWS is clear in how their present their offering as something that allows projects to grow and scale quickly while avoiding upfront costs buying and hosting their own hardware.
- snotrockets 4y ago
  You don’t pay the cloud providers (just) for their computing power.
  - tuyenhx 4y ago
    So what do we pay for except computing power? Ease of scale? Ease of development cost? Or other marketing material?
    - andrewguenther 4y ago
      Security, compliance, flexibility...
      - simplotek 4y ago
        > Security, compliance, flexibility... AWS's shared responsibility model is quite clear in stating that end users are ultimately the ones responsible for security and compliance. So your points are moot. "Flexibility" in this case is so vague that it's meaningless. I mean, is there anything more flexible than owning the entire infrastructure and software stack you chose all by yourself?
        andrewguenther 4y ago
        That's not at all what the shared responsibility model means...You are responsible for your application's security, not of the underlying infrastructure. That's why it is shared...
    - snotrockets 4y ago
      Making it somebody’s else problem.
  - simplotek 4y ago
    > You don’t pay the cloud providers (just) for their computing power. I feel that your comment is a red herring. Using someone else's computer does not mean taking advantage of computing power alone, and nothing more. In fact, the point of paying someone else to use their system was never computing power, specially nowadays.
quickthrower2 4y ago
Hokey Pokey computing? Probably they will move it half way back into the cloud (move it to "the edge").

It could even be reasonable because (gasp!) the cloud might change yet again. But I'm rather positive it won't.

> Can’t wait for their post in 3 or so years about moving their workloads back to the cloud. What leads you to believe that paying a premium to someone else to use their computers is a solution that fits each and every single case? Even AWS is clear in how their present their offering as something that allows projects to grow and scale quickly while avoiding upfront costs buying and hosting their own hardware.

snotrockets 4y ago
You don’t pay the cloud providers (just) for their computing power.
- tuyenhx 4y ago
  So what do we pay for except computing power? Ease of scale? Ease of development cost? Or other marketing material?
  - andrewguenther 4y ago
    Security, compliance, flexibility...
    - simplotek 4y ago
      > Security, compliance, flexibility... AWS's shared responsibility model is quite clear in stating that end users are ultimately the ones responsible for security and compliance. So your points are moot. "Flexibility" in this case is so vague that it's meaningless. I mean, is there anything more flexible than owning the entire infrastructure and software stack you chose all by yourself?
      - andrewguenther 4y ago
        That's not at all what the shared responsibility model means...You are responsible for your application's security, not of the underlying infrastructure. That's why it is shared...
  - snotrockets 4y ago
    Making it somebody’s else problem.
- simplotek 4y ago
  > You don’t pay the cloud providers (just) for their computing power. I feel that your comment is a red herring. Using someone else's computer does not mean taking advantage of computing power alone, and nothing more. In fact, the point of paying someone else to use their system was never computing power, specially nowadays.

quickthrower2 4y ago

Hokey Pokey computing? Probably they will move it half way back into the cloud (move it to "the edge").