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Or go with the Oracle OCI free-tier and get even more resources for $0. The free 24GB ARM instances are generous and capable. Just make sure to select a home

Or go with the Oracle OCI free-tier and get even more resources for $0. The free 24GB ARM instances are generous and capable. Just make sure to select a home region during sign-up which has them (Phoenix / PHX probably gives the best odds). that said, perhaps not everyone is a sysadmin and security expert. In fact, this was the whole beauty of Heroku; "git push heroku" and you're done.

ldjkfkdsjnv 4y ago
Maybe, but if you do enough fishing around on github repos, you can find CDK code that will spin up a whole secure website with a database.
- metadat 4y ago
  What is CDK?
  - guessmyname 4y ago
    AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) — https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/ https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/ > AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) is an open-source software development framework used to model and provision your cloud application resources with familiar programming languages. AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) accelerates cloud development using common programming languages to model your applications. If you have used or read about Hashicorp Terraform, this is basically the same thing but limited to AWS. The “Getting Started” website shows a bit of code if you want a preview — https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/v2/guide/getting_started.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/v2/guide/getting_started.htm...
    - scarface74 4y ago
      While the AWS SDK is limited to AWS, Hashicorp ported the CDK to Terraform. https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf
troysk 4y ago
dokku does that well. not sure if it works on ARM arch though.
- josegonzalez 4y ago
  Dokku works on ARM and ARM64, in addition to AMD64. Note: I'm the maintainer of Dokku.
  - troysk 4y ago
    Thank you for the work! It has been amazing using dokku.
fbdab103 4y ago
Yeah, but then I have to be looking over my shoulder that Larry Ellison is going to spring some kind of legal/financial trap. I will pay more to avoid Oracle.
cercatrova 4y ago
You couldn't pay me to use anything Oracle based. I'd much rather take my chances with AWS or another host than use Oracle.
- metadat 4y ago
  What is the distinction between Bezos vs. Ellison? They are both sociopathic jerks. In any case, more power to you, friend. In my eyes, a rented server is a rented server regardless of which data center or network provider is behind it. It's not emotional, merely an optimization game.
  - fbdab103 4y ago
    Debatably, Amazon is focused on delivering a good product ("customer focused"). Oracle feels far more likely to "trick" you into a costly financial arrangement where you are offered a deal you cannot refuse.
    - metadat 4y ago
      I've found OCI to be roughly on par with AWS for compute and networking. I've had the free tier account and corresponding instances for more than 5 years now with zero issues. With that said, it's generally good advice to not count or rely on anything free for important things. Hence the motivation behind this story; Heroku used to be free and now it's evaporating away back into the ether. My only goal here is to provide helpful information. Cheers.
  - michaelt 4y ago
    Amazon/AWS is playing the long game, not raising prices (and even lowering them) even though many of their customers are thoroughly locked in; and of producing products that are pretty popular with users. Most of their assholery is towards employees, suppliers, and competitors - rather than customers. Oracle, on the other hand, has a reputation for extracting maximum money from locked-in customers; an aggressive legal team; and producing products like Oracle Financials which are widely hated by users.
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xtracto 4y ago
I tried oracle cloud for some time. Its interface is horrendous, some of its instances gave issues all over the place and after shooting it down I am still getting emails , in Portuguese (for some unknown reason I guess someone read my last name and thought I speak that language) and I get calls from time to time. It was a horrible experience.

ldjkfkdsjnv 4y ago

Maybe, but if you do enough fishing around on github repos, you can find CDK code that will spin up a whole secure website with a database.

metadat 4y ago
What is CDK?
- guessmyname 4y ago
  AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) — https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/ https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/ > AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) is an open-source software development framework used to model and provision your cloud application resources with familiar programming languages. AWS Cloud Development Kit (CDK) accelerates cloud development using common programming languages to model your applications. If you have used or read about Hashicorp Terraform, this is basically the same thing but limited to AWS. The “Getting Started” website shows a bit of code if you want a preview — https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/v2/guide/getting_started.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/v2/guide/getting_started.htm...
  - scarface74 4y ago
    While the AWS SDK is limited to AWS, Hashicorp ported the CDK to Terraform. https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf

troysk 4y ago

dokku does that well. not sure if it works on ARM arch though.

josegonzalez 4y ago
Dokku works on ARM and ARM64, in addition to AMD64. Note: I'm the maintainer of Dokku.
- troysk 4y ago
  Thank you for the work! It has been amazing using dokku.

fbdab103 4y ago

Yeah, but then I have to be looking over my shoulder that Larry Ellison is going to spring some kind of legal/financial trap. I will pay more to avoid Oracle.

cercatrova 4y ago

You couldn't pay me to use anything Oracle based. I'd much rather take my chances with AWS or another host than use Oracle.

metadat 4y ago
What is the distinction between Bezos vs. Ellison? They are both sociopathic jerks. In any case, more power to you, friend. In my eyes, a rented server is a rented server regardless of which data center or network provider is behind it. It's not emotional, merely an optimization game.
- fbdab103 4y ago
  Debatably, Amazon is focused on delivering a good product ("customer focused"). Oracle feels far more likely to "trick" you into a costly financial arrangement where you are offered a deal you cannot refuse.
  - metadat 4y ago
    I've found OCI to be roughly on par with AWS for compute and networking. I've had the free tier account and corresponding instances for more than 5 years now with zero issues. With that said, it's generally good advice to not count or rely on anything free for important things. Hence the motivation behind this story; Heroku used to be free and now it's evaporating away back into the ether. My only goal here is to provide helpful information. Cheers.
- michaelt 4y ago
  Amazon/AWS is playing the long game, not raising prices (and even lowering them) even though many of their customers are thoroughly locked in; and of producing products that are pretty popular with users. Most of their assholery is towards employees, suppliers, and competitors - rather than customers. Oracle, on the other hand, has a reputation for extracting maximum money from locked-in customers; an aggressive legal team; and producing products like Oracle Financials which are widely hated by users.

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xtracto 4y ago

I tried oracle cloud for some time. Its interface is horrendous, some of its instances gave issues all over the place and after shooting it down I am still getting emails , in Portuguese (for some unknown reason I guess someone read my last name and thought I speak that language) and I get calls from time to time. It was a horrible experience.