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> It would not make sense for a junior American dev to ever be paid equally or as much as a senior non-US based dev in the same company, or even more than a ju

> It would not make sense for a junior American dev to ever be paid equally or as much as a senior non-US based dev in the same company, or even more than a junior dev is some other developed region, yet that is an extremely common if not universal occurrence. This does make sense - they have better technical skills (because of better education - you said this yourself) and better communication skills (because of cultural context) and also in general I think better attitude and aspiration. > why would Atlassian ever 'adjust' salaries for remote workers who leave the US? In a foolish attempt to save money that doesn't make any sense, based on the same misconception you have. If they could hire people for less money to do the same job then why weren't they already doing that?

Bakary 4y ago
>This does make sense - they have better technical skills (because of better education - you said this yourself) and better communication skills (because of cultural context) and also in general I think better attitude and aspiration. This isn't a plausible explanation if you are at all familiar with the tech world outside of the US, or even higher education systems. It's easier for an American to get a good education, but the quantity of quality educated people is high in every developed country. Besides, for the explanation to make sense, the Americans wouldn't have to be slightly better, they would have to be multiple standard deviations better to merit the current salaries. >If they could hire people for less money to do the same job then why weren't they already doing that? Because the whole point is that locality is a factor in the hiring practices of tech companies, though this is changing significantly
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > This isn't a plausible explanation if you are at all familiar with the tech world outside of the US I live outside the US and work in tech, so I am familiar with it. > or even higher education systems I'm also a Visiting Academic in a higher education institution, so I'm familiar with that too. > the quantity of quality educated people is high in every developed country I'm not so sure - I'm in the UK, and we have a chronic lack of skilled technical people. It's a big problem - big enough to be a national security issue. We just don't seem to have the knowledge, skill, or aspiration to produce a lot of talented tech people, outside of a small elite. And I think the UK is in a good position compared to places like France, Italy, etc, which are even worse.

Bakary 4y ago

>This does make sense - they have better technical skills (because of better education - you said this yourself) and better communication skills (because of cultural context) and also in general I think better attitude and aspiration. This isn't a plausible explanation if you are at all familiar with the tech world outside of the US, or even higher education systems. It's easier for an American to get a good education, but the quantity of quality educated people is high in every developed country. Besides, for the explanation to make sense, the Americans wouldn't have to be slightly better, they would have to be multiple standard deviations better to merit the current salaries. >If they could hire people for less money to do the same job then why weren't they already doing that? Because the whole point is that locality is a factor in the hiring practices of tech companies, though this is changing significantly

chrisseaton 4y ago
> This isn't a plausible explanation if you are at all familiar with the tech world outside of the US I live outside the US and work in tech, so I am familiar with it. > or even higher education systems I'm also a Visiting Academic in a higher education institution, so I'm familiar with that too. > the quantity of quality educated people is high in every developed country I'm not so sure - I'm in the UK, and we have a chronic lack of skilled technical people. It's a big problem - big enough to be a national security issue. We just don't seem to have the knowledge, skill, or aspiration to produce a lot of talented tech people, outside of a small elite. And I think the UK is in a good position compared to places like France, Italy, etc, which are even worse.