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Joffrey was a Clueless if ever there was one. He had no grasp of strategy, no skill at manipulation, no understanding of how to present himself. His mother on t
by b3morales 4y ago
Joffrey was a Clueless if ever there was one. He had no grasp of strategy, no skill at manipulation, no understanding of how to present himself. His mother on the other hand was a Sociopath's Sociopath.
- tomrod 4y agoI agree that he was clueless. He was also a sociopath and nominally in charge, though not by his own choice. A patsy set up to fail. And I 100% agree on Cersei.
- theptip 4y agoI think it’s important to distinguish DSM Sociopath (Joffrey) from Gervais Principle Sociopath (Cersei). Both abbreviate to “sociopath” but they are very different concepts. I don’t think Joffrey qualifies as a GP Sociopath at all, as GP notes. While he was “in charge” he didn’t play the GP Sociopath game, and so was quickly removed. As the OP notes it’s possible for Clueless to be placed in positions of power in plenty of cases, for example when a fall guy is needed, or a puppet. So just wearing the crown doesn’t mean he MUST be a GP Sociopath.
- karpierz 4y agoThis scene really highlights the difference between the Clueless (Joffrey) and the Sociopath (Tywin): https://youtu.be/BM6kMHH-G64 https://youtu.be/BM6kMHH-G64