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EDIT: deleting this comment, too much negative feedback. For cognitive benefits, try mental math apps.

by jasfi 4y ago

rtp4me 4y ago
Is this an over-the-counter herb? Sounds like my wife and I need to do some research on this... Edit: Yes, in fact, it is over the counter. Seems GNC, Walgreens, etc has this on the shelf. Thanks for recommending it!
- deleted 4y ago
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- jasfi 4y ago
  Sure, as another poster wrote, be careful with MS it seems, there could be an immune stimulating effect. For stress in general it's very good though. Also it can be taken infrequently and you can still see a lot of benefits.
  - sooyoo 4y ago
    > be careful with MS it seems, there could be an immune stimulating effect. If you know this, then why are you bringing the herb up as a response to somebody explicitly saying they have MS and are desperate for help? It's like somebody screaming their house is on fire and you recommend trying a bucket of gasoline. And deep in the comments you'd mention "oh by the way, rhe gasoline could make the fire worse, and also, I make money off the gasoline-ordering-links that I sent you"
    - jasfi 4y ago
      I didn't know it at first. Also, as pointed out, the risk is theoretical.
      - sooyoo 4y ago
        If that's the case then isn't it time to edit the comment and remove the harmful information or at least put a fat warning along side it, instead of keeping it up there together with your affiliate links that are still up and still earn you money?
    - GaylordTuring 4y ago
      If you read this whole thread, you can see that OP recommended to try the treatment before they knew about this MS specific risk.
alberth 4y ago
> Have you tried Ashwagandha? Please only take medical advice from medical professionals. See excerpt below: “Ashwagandha is an herbal remedy often categorized as an adaptogen, and it is sometimes recommended for MS-related fatigue. This compound does stimulate some cells in the immune system, so it poses a theoretical risk in MS.” https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/multiple-sclerosis.asp https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/multiple-scleros...
- jasfi 4y ago
  Thanks for finding that! Even a theoretical risk needs to be underlined. It's interesting that the same article notes that exercise also stimulates the immune system and that the risk really is theoretical at this point. But good to note it.
  - alberth 4y ago
    I have a family member with MS and it’s completely debilitated them. I completely empathize and totally get why alternative treatments should be investigated. It’s just a super tricky problem because everyone experiences MS differently and it’s non reversible nature makes it super scary. I too wish modern medical could better help. So maybe Ashwagandha is it, just please have that conversations with your doctor.
sooyoo 4y ago
Affiliate links? Seriously? Why are so many people trying to make money off this poor guy? Not just does this bring money into your pockets, on top of that there is no evidence that withania somnifera even helps with any disease.
- jasfi 4y ago
  My primary cause with the site is informational. But if I could bring in some (likely minimal) income, I could spend that on ads to market the site. I don't think that's immoral. That herb has seriously helped me with stress. Here's one study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573577/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573577/ I need to add that to the site.
  - sooyoo 4y ago
    While at it, please also add the references mentioned in this thread here that this herb poses a risk to those diagnosed with MS including a big warning. This is entirely missing currently, and since you are aware of it, you are purposely misleading your audience to make a buck. Yes, that's immoral in my book. (Part of your purported honesty would obviously be to inform your readers that ordering through your links will give you cash kickbacks.)
    - jasfi 4y ago
      Kickback? How is that an illicit payment?
mush_room 4y ago
Oh man, I don't know how I messed that up, it's mush_room_hn at proton.me not protonmail!

EDIT: deleting this comment, too much negative feedback. For cognitive benefits, try mental math apps.

by jasfi 4y ago

EDIT: deleting this comment, too much negative feedback. For cognitive benefits, try mental math apps.

Is this an over-the-counter herb? Sounds like my wife and I need to do some research on this... Edit: Yes, in fact, it is over the counter. Seems GNC, Walgreens, etc has this on the shelf. Thanks for recommending it!

deleted 4y ago
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jasfi 4y ago
Sure, as another poster wrote, be careful with MS it seems, there could be an immune stimulating effect. For stress in general it's very good though. Also it can be taken infrequently and you can still see a lot of benefits.
- sooyoo 4y ago
  > be careful with MS it seems, there could be an immune stimulating effect. If you know this, then why are you bringing the herb up as a response to somebody explicitly saying they have MS and are desperate for help? It's like somebody screaming their house is on fire and you recommend trying a bucket of gasoline. And deep in the comments you'd mention "oh by the way, rhe gasoline could make the fire worse, and also, I make money off the gasoline-ordering-links that I sent you"
  - jasfi 4y ago
    I didn't know it at first. Also, as pointed out, the risk is theoretical.
    - sooyoo 4y ago
      If that's the case then isn't it time to edit the comment and remove the harmful information or at least put a fat warning along side it, instead of keeping it up there together with your affiliate links that are still up and still earn you money?
  - GaylordTuring 4y ago
    If you read this whole thread, you can see that OP recommended to try the treatment before they knew about this MS specific risk.

alberth 4y ago

> Have you tried Ashwagandha? Please only take medical advice from medical professionals. See excerpt below: “Ashwagandha is an herbal remedy often categorized as an adaptogen, and it is sometimes recommended for MS-related fatigue. This compound does stimulate some cells in the immune system, so it poses a theoretical risk in MS.” https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/multiple-sclerosis.asp https://www.va.gov/WHOLEHEALTHLIBRARY/tools/multiple-scleros...

jasfi 4y ago
Thanks for finding that! Even a theoretical risk needs to be underlined. It's interesting that the same article notes that exercise also stimulates the immune system and that the risk really is theoretical at this point. But good to note it.
- alberth 4y ago
  I have a family member with MS and it’s completely debilitated them. I completely empathize and totally get why alternative treatments should be investigated. It’s just a super tricky problem because everyone experiences MS differently and it’s non reversible nature makes it super scary. I too wish modern medical could better help. So maybe Ashwagandha is it, just please have that conversations with your doctor.

sooyoo 4y ago

Affiliate links? Seriously? Why are so many people trying to make money off this poor guy? Not just does this bring money into your pockets, on top of that there is no evidence that withania somnifera even helps with any disease.

jasfi 4y ago
My primary cause with the site is informational. But if I could bring in some (likely minimal) income, I could spend that on ads to market the site. I don't think that's immoral. That herb has seriously helped me with stress. Here's one study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573577/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573577/ I need to add that to the site.
- sooyoo 4y ago
  While at it, please also add the references mentioned in this thread here that this herb poses a risk to those diagnosed with MS including a big warning. This is entirely missing currently, and since you are aware of it, you are purposely misleading your audience to make a buck. Yes, that's immoral in my book. (Part of your purported honesty would obviously be to inform your readers that ordering through your links will give you cash kickbacks.)
  - jasfi 4y ago
    Kickback? How is that an illicit payment?

mush_room 4y ago

Oh man, I don't know how I messed that up, it's mush_room_hn at proton.me not protonmail!