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Why stop at 7 arrows and not just keep going until he failed?
by Ambolia 4y ago
Why stop at 7 arrows and not just keep going until he failed?
- milansm 4y agoI assume so that they can break the record again later on.
- MobileVet 4y agoIt is a deal to pull in the official Guinness people etc. seems like a waste to not take yourself to the limit.
- tromp 4y agoAh yes, Sergey Bubka [1] or Armand Duplantis [2] style... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Bubka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Bubka [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Duplantis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Duplantis
- dasloop 4y ago“From 1991 through 1994, Sergey Bubka topped his own mark nine times, each time besting his previous mark by only 0.01 meters.” https://nowiknow.com/the-man-who-inched-away-at-history/ https://nowiknow.com/the-man-who-inched-away-at-history/
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- bombcar 4y agoPole vaulting seems a bit different because if you set it too high you might miss. Whereas the eight shot here - if you miss it you still have your seven good ones.
- hillacious 4y agoIt would be the same for pole vaulting. You can enter the competition at a lower height and continue to clear as the height increases. Once you fail at a height you still have the highest height you did clear for the competition which you can still win with. That was probably a horrible explanation - my apologies if so.
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- 988747 4y agoThe actual rules, from Wikipedia: "Once the vaulter enters the competition, they can choose to pass heights. If a vaulter achieves a miss on their first attempt at a height, they can pass to the next height, but they will only have two attempts at that height, as they will be out once they achieve three consecutive misses. Similarly, after earning two misses at a height, they could pass to the next height, when they would have only one attempt. The competitor who clears the highest height is the winner. " So, it takes some planning, and some athletes start at heights that they know they will clear easy, just to guarantee them 2nd or 3rd place. Then they continue their attempts at higher bars. Once they know they have won they have 3 more attempts to try and break the record.
- gus_massa 4y agoYou probably get tired if you jump too much, so instead of increasing the height by 1cm, it's probably better to skip most of them.
- MobileVet 4y agoRight?! They only had 7 setup from the start. If you are breaking a record why would you ever quit before you were spent? If I was ever in a position to break a record I would go until I failed to ensure the record held as long as possible.
- nwatson 4y agoYou can break your own record the next time and get more publicity. The hype dies down otherwise.
- germinalphrase 4y agoOr get beat by somebody so you can create a rivalry.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoSoviet athletes were paid a premium every time they broke some world record. So it makes perfect sense to break your own records incrementally, by as little as possible.
- csa 4y agoBubka is Ukrainian, and I believe he set the records under the Ukrainian flag. Not sure what and how they paid him (if anything), but it wouldn’t have been a Soviet thing.
- btilly 4y agoHe started setting records in the 1980s when Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, so it very much was a Soviet thing. After Ukraine left he then competed under the Ukrainian flag, but I would expect many Soviet practices to have continued (at least for a while).
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoBtw only the last four of his outdoors records and two last indoors records were made under the Ukrainian flag. Interestingly, he also was a part of unified exUSSR team on 1992 Olympics, competing under get Olympics flag, and somehow didn't even win. Also, his last record set in 1994 stood for mighty 20 years and was finally broken on 15 Feb 2014, in Donetsk, of all places. ... ... I don't think we'll see international pole vaulting events in Donetsk in the next 20 years.
- lostlogin 4y agoI assumed he did and that they had cut the video.
- dymk 4y agoBut the word record cert at the end says 7 arrows, and not any more.
- bombcar 4y agoHis quiver was empty after seven - I’d have kept going myself but maybe there’s a whole “proper etiquette” around keyhole arrowing.
- Someone 4y agoMaybe he shot a hundred, and he finally did it with the last 7, and missed the next one, after collecting his arrows. Or maybe he had to stop because the arrows break down when passing through the hole. For example, I don’t think it’s good for the fletching (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletching) Or he had 1000 arrows, fired them all through they that keyhole 10 times in a row and they cut out the first 9,993 hits because that made the video boringly long ;-)
- troymc 4y agoMaybe there are only 7 keyhole arrows in the entire world, and each one costs a zillion dollars to make, and you have to wait three days before shooting one again, to let it cool down. Maybe not.
- johnfn 4y agoYes yes, this is certainly the correct answer. No reason for me to read the rest of the thread.
- highwaylights 4y agoThat’s what they want you to think. I’ve been saying for years that someone needs to reign in Big Keyhole Arrows but the regulators have been asleep at the wheel as per usual. Thanks a lot, (Congress)/(Brussels)/(Obama I guess).
- citizenpaul 4y agoPeople do this all the time in these things. That way now you can win another award for 8 shots next year or whatever. Pretty soon you are the top winner of awards for XXX. Otherwise you just get one award you can never beat. Double so if there are monetary prizes involved.
- quickthrower2 4y agoMaybe p(keyhole) = 0.25, and so it takes about 4^7 tries before getting 7 in a row. They only filmed the successful try to avoid viewer boredom :-).