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Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. Canada is a good example of that, we have a lollipop demographic, lo

Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. Canada is a good example of that, we have a lollipop demographic, lots of old people, not enough young. Housing is going to crash here over the next decade, I just don't see how it can't with the pop crash that is coming. Immigration isn't making up for the loss either and doesn't appear to be able to as we have trouble retaining people.

ac29 4y ago
> Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. I'm not sure where you got that idea. Population is increasing nearly everywhere, including the two most populous countries (China and India): https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ch https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ch https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/in https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/in
- johnnymorgan 4y ago
  India has growth, China does not. China has a median age of 67 I think now, they went from 1.8b to 1.4 or 1.2b, they are not growing in pop. Japan was just leading the way, outside of Africa, the USA, France and Mexico to a degree it's all old people.
  - cm2187 4y ago
    You are looking at the population of the country. What is relevant here is the population of large cities. Ie people leaving rural china to live in big cities. And for US and most european countries, they may have ageing populations with low fertility, but they still have massives immigration inflows.
    - johnnymorgan 4y ago
      Whaaa?? Wtf does city population have to do when the entire country going from 1.8b to 1.2b in the last 10 years and how does that mean pop growth China is hemorrhaging people at an alarming rate..one child policy is bitting them in the ass.
      - cm2187 4y ago
        https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20656/shanghai/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20656/shanghai/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20464/beijing/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20464/beijing/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20517/guangzhou-guangdong/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20517/guangzhou-guangdong... https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20667/shenzhen/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20667/shenzhen/population
        johnnymorgan 4y ago
        Lol it's still the same people where ever they move around to within China, that number doesn't change and you don't magically get more people if they move into a city. This has absolutely zero to do with the demographics crash, you are talking about migration patterns. The total number is going down and fast.
- johnnymorgan 4y ago
  You really didn't look at that data... 1.5 kids per women is below replacement and 100 men per 1 women means you have a hard limit on the # of possible children. China will drop down to less than 500m over the next 2 decades
- worik 4y ago
  > > Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. The rate of increase is falling everywhere except sub-Saharan Africa, last time I checked a decade ago. Many developed countries have falling populations. It is still (as of a decade ago when I stopped actively studying this) a mystery as to why. It used to be thought that it was because of life long secure prospects for the children you do have and for yourself in old age. What children you do have will live, and you do not expect to need a lot of children to support you in your old age. But them some developed countries went into serious decline. The USSR, as was in particular. The population rate did not go up. The latest theory (a decade old, "latest") is that it has to do with the education of women. It has nothing to do with availability of contraception, surprisingly.
  - johnnymorgan 4y ago
    Or supply chain issues affecting fertility pretty much where ever the modern world shows up. Amish are literally going to take over America in 30-50 years if it continues

ac29 4y ago

> Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. I'm not sure where you got that idea. Population is increasing nearly everywhere, including the two most populous countries (China and India): https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ch https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/ch https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/in https://www.census.gov/popclock/world/in

johnnymorgan 4y ago
India has growth, China does not. China has a median age of 67 I think now, they went from 1.8b to 1.4 or 1.2b, they are not growing in pop. Japan was just leading the way, outside of Africa, the USA, France and Mexico to a degree it's all old people.
- cm2187 4y ago
  You are looking at the population of the country. What is relevant here is the population of large cities. Ie people leaving rural china to live in big cities. And for US and most european countries, they may have ageing populations with low fertility, but they still have massives immigration inflows.
  - johnnymorgan 4y ago
    Whaaa?? Wtf does city population have to do when the entire country going from 1.8b to 1.2b in the last 10 years and how does that mean pop growth China is hemorrhaging people at an alarming rate..one child policy is bitting them in the ass.
    - cm2187 4y ago
      https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20656/shanghai/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20656/shanghai/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20464/beijing/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20464/beijing/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20517/guangzhou-guangdong/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20517/guangzhou-guangdong... https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20667/shenzhen/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20667/shenzhen/population
      - johnnymorgan 4y ago
        Lol it's still the same people where ever they move around to within China, that number doesn't change and you don't magically get more people if they move into a city. This has absolutely zero to do with the demographics crash, you are talking about migration patterns. The total number is going down and fast.
johnnymorgan 4y ago
You really didn't look at that data... 1.5 kids per women is below replacement and 100 men per 1 women means you have a hard limit on the # of possible children. China will drop down to less than 500m over the next 2 decades
worik 4y ago
> > Over all no it's not as we have population declines everywhere outside the USA and Africa. The rate of increase is falling everywhere except sub-Saharan Africa, last time I checked a decade ago. Many developed countries have falling populations. It is still (as of a decade ago when I stopped actively studying this) a mystery as to why. It used to be thought that it was because of life long secure prospects for the children you do have and for yourself in old age. What children you do have will live, and you do not expect to need a lot of children to support you in your old age. But them some developed countries went into serious decline. The USSR, as was in particular. The population rate did not go up. The latest theory (a decade old, "latest") is that it has to do with the education of women. It has nothing to do with availability of contraception, surprisingly.
- johnnymorgan 4y ago
  Or supply chain issues affecting fertility pretty much where ever the modern world shows up. Amish are literally going to take over America in 30-50 years if it continues