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Dying from cancer a few years after the disaster still counts, not zero.

by dewey 4y ago

onion2k 4y ago
Coal power stations release a lot more radiation than nuclear power stations. If you're concerned about cancer then fossil fuels should be a priority ahead of nuclear.
- dewey 4y ago
  > then fossil fuels should be a priority ahead of nuclear We are capable to focus on more than one thing at a time. Of course it doesn't make sense to instantly shut down all of nuclear power stations, just like it doesn't make sense to retire every fossil fuel powered engine at the same time or shut down coal from one day to the next. It's a long and slow process.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  whataboutism will not magically solve the problems with nuclear energy
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  - replygirl 4y ago
    we're discussing problems with nuclear and their specific material impacts relative to alternatives to nuclear. comparison != whatabout
  - samus 4y ago
    It is very relevant since decommissioning a nuclear power plant requires building new fossil-powered ones, or reopening mothballed ones. Renewables + storage simply can't replace them completely yet.
replygirl 4y ago
which civilian meltdown since chernobyl has attributed cancer deaths? i'm not aware of any confirmed for tmi or fukushima, where the exposure was measured as safe by a wide margin. maybe i'm missing another meltdown?
Raydovsky 4y ago
None of those either. Chernobyl caused very few cancer deaths.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  > Chernobyl caused very few cancer deaths. "The incidence of thyroid cancer in children, ordinarily very rare, had begun to increase markedly following the accident. Scientists have estimated up to 5,000 cases of thyroid cancer among residents who were children at the time of the accident" "Plus an statistical excess of 9,000 cancer cases (leukemia + all solid tumors combined excluding thyroid) in the areas affected, and 5,000 people killed in this category". "The study demonstrated increases in breast cancer incidence in all areas following the Chernobyl accident" "the morbidity rate in Belarus for cervix cancer is as high as 36%, compared with 21% in Germany" (Several sources, ten seconds search in ddg)

Dying from cancer a few years after the disaster still counts, not zero.

by dewey 4y ago

Dying from cancer a few years after the disaster still counts, not zero.

Coal power stations release a lot more radiation than nuclear power stations. If you're concerned about cancer then fossil fuels should be a priority ahead of nuclear.

dewey 4y ago
> then fossil fuels should be a priority ahead of nuclear We are capable to focus on more than one thing at a time. Of course it doesn't make sense to instantly shut down all of nuclear power stations, just like it doesn't make sense to retire every fossil fuel powered engine at the same time or shut down coal from one day to the next. It's a long and slow process.
pvaldes 4y ago
whataboutism will not magically solve the problems with nuclear energy
- deleted 4y ago
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- replygirl 4y ago
  we're discussing problems with nuclear and their specific material impacts relative to alternatives to nuclear. comparison != whatabout
- samus 4y ago
  It is very relevant since decommissioning a nuclear power plant requires building new fossil-powered ones, or reopening mothballed ones. Renewables + storage simply can't replace them completely yet.

replygirl 4y ago

which civilian meltdown since chernobyl has attributed cancer deaths? i'm not aware of any confirmed for tmi or fukushima, where the exposure was measured as safe by a wide margin. maybe i'm missing another meltdown?

Raydovsky 4y ago

None of those either. Chernobyl caused very few cancer deaths.

pvaldes 4y ago
> Chernobyl caused very few cancer deaths. "The incidence of thyroid cancer in children, ordinarily very rare, had begun to increase markedly following the accident. Scientists have estimated up to 5,000 cases of thyroid cancer among residents who were children at the time of the accident" "Plus an statistical excess of 9,000 cancer cases (leukemia + all solid tumors combined excluding thyroid) in the areas affected, and 5,000 people killed in this category". "The study demonstrated increases in breast cancer incidence in all areas following the Chernobyl accident" "the morbidity rate in Belarus for cervix cancer is as high as 36%, compared with 21% in Germany" (Several sources, ten seconds search in ddg)