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Maybe you enjoy being algorithmically told to behave but some adults don't. It needs to be a parameter that can be controlled by the user and not the admins.

ggm 4y ago
Again with the declarative statements. This is a site owned by people who made choices you don't like. I get that. But, adults get told to moderate their behaviour in real life, and it's not always obnoxious. It's a debatable point. So far, you seem to me to be capable of needing to be told to back off. I know I need it too sometimes, I think it's quite adult to be able to take hints, even machine generated ones. Your account has a six day life. Did it occur to you the algorithm looks for over eager new accounts, or did you make an alternate to get around some other barrier?
- koyanisqatsi 4y ago
  I am reminded of a very poignant monologue from Shawshank Redemption about men who have come to believe their impoverished existence is the only possible way they can continue living because of how long they have lived that way in an institution that was designed to forcefully modify their behavior. You must have misunderstood my initial statement. I was not inviting debate but it seems that did not come across in the statement itself. I guess this is understandable given the impoverished online environment of HN and its non-transparent moderation rules/tactics. Hopefully that clears things up.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    > I was not inviting debate Point of fact, you commented on a forum. Expect debate. But you're getting information, not debate. The forum works well. The rules are not a prison, they're a café. Don't like it, git. If you do like it, chill.
  - slater 4y ago
    "the impoverished online environment of HN" and yet, here you are.
klyrs 4y ago
I enjoy other adults being told to behave when they aren't behaving. It's only happened to me once, when I was new to the site and wasn't respecting the site guidelines. It chafed a little, but I recognized the wisdom behind the system. It doesn't need to be controlled by the individual poster, nobody owes you that. If you don't like it, you can go elsewhere. Among other things, HN benefits from rate-limiting, because it reduces the amount of garbage for mods to sift through.
yazzku 4y ago
Are you arguing that spammers should be able to control their rate limiting? Come again.

ggm 4y ago

Again with the declarative statements. This is a site owned by people who made choices you don't like. I get that. But, adults get told to moderate their behaviour in real life, and it's not always obnoxious. It's a debatable point. So far, you seem to me to be capable of needing to be told to back off. I know I need it too sometimes, I think it's quite adult to be able to take hints, even machine generated ones. Your account has a six day life. Did it occur to you the algorithm looks for over eager new accounts, or did you make an alternate to get around some other barrier?

koyanisqatsi 4y ago
I am reminded of a very poignant monologue from Shawshank Redemption about men who have come to believe their impoverished existence is the only possible way they can continue living because of how long they have lived that way in an institution that was designed to forcefully modify their behavior. You must have misunderstood my initial statement. I was not inviting debate but it seems that did not come across in the statement itself. I guess this is understandable given the impoverished online environment of HN and its non-transparent moderation rules/tactics. Hopefully that clears things up.
- klyrs 4y ago
  > I was not inviting debate Point of fact, you commented on a forum. Expect debate. But you're getting information, not debate. The forum works well. The rules are not a prison, they're a café. Don't like it, git. If you do like it, chill.
- slater 4y ago
  "the impoverished online environment of HN" and yet, here you are.

klyrs 4y ago

I enjoy other adults being told to behave when they aren't behaving. It's only happened to me once, when I was new to the site and wasn't respecting the site guidelines. It chafed a little, but I recognized the wisdom behind the system. It doesn't need to be controlled by the individual poster, nobody owes you that. If you don't like it, you can go elsewhere. Among other things, HN benefits from rate-limiting, because it reduces the amount of garbage for mods to sift through.

yazzku 4y ago

Are you arguing that spammers should be able to control their rate limiting? Come again.