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It is literal truth that the first police in the US were slave hunters and the first police station in the world was to protect from theft at the Wapping docks

williamcotton 4y ago
There were constables in England in the Middle Ages. There have been local volunteer watchman and paid constables in the United States since the early colonial days. There was also "hue and cry", whereby someone witnessed a crime and then shouted out and all men were supposed to help catch the criminal. This, as can be imagined, was sometimes quite the shit-show.
Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
What will you do if I rob you? Who will you report this to? What stops me from burglary? Also, city guards have existed in Europe and China since before tge US existed. They didn't use the word "police" obviously. I wish "cops = nazis" people would explain what they would have instead.
- antihero 4y ago
  The idea that you can’t criticise the failings and nature of something you also use are so tiring. Crime happens for so many reasons, some of which force maybe required to stop or hold people accountable, and many of the reasons are endemic to the system we live in. Other things could be prevented by provisioning elsewhere.
  - Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
    When did I say you can’t criticise the failings and nature of something? I stated that your assertion was wrong, and asked questions that need answering by "defund the police" people. You never explicitly stated you want to dedund the police, but this is the argument those people make for it's removal. I read an article in the magazine of a major newspaper that said to remove prison and the police entirely, and this was before Floyd. I never said you support this position, and I never gave you any instruction. I asked you relevant questions and examined your statement. You didn't respond to any of it
- grecy 4y ago
  > What will you do if I rob you? Who will you report this to? What stops me from burglary? In yesterday’s discussion about getting mugged in San Fran, virtually every comment said “the police did not help”.

williamcotton 4y ago

There were constables in England in the Middle Ages. There have been local volunteer watchman and paid constables in the United States since the early colonial days. There was also "hue and cry", whereby someone witnessed a crime and then shouted out and all men were supposed to help catch the criminal. This, as can be imagined, was sometimes quite the shit-show.

Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago

What will you do if I rob you? Who will you report this to? What stops me from burglary? Also, city guards have existed in Europe and China since before tge US existed. They didn't use the word "police" obviously. I wish "cops = nazis" people would explain what they would have instead.

antihero 4y ago
The idea that you can’t criticise the failings and nature of something you also use are so tiring. Crime happens for so many reasons, some of which force maybe required to stop or hold people accountable, and many of the reasons are endemic to the system we live in. Other things could be prevented by provisioning elsewhere.
- Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
  When did I say you can’t criticise the failings and nature of something? I stated that your assertion was wrong, and asked questions that need answering by "defund the police" people. You never explicitly stated you want to dedund the police, but this is the argument those people make for it's removal. I read an article in the magazine of a major newspaper that said to remove prison and the police entirely, and this was before Floyd. I never said you support this position, and I never gave you any instruction. I asked you relevant questions and examined your statement. You didn't respond to any of it
grecy 4y ago
> What will you do if I rob you? Who will you report this to? What stops me from burglary? In yesterday’s discussion about getting mugged in San Fran, virtually every comment said “the police did not help”.