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* these findings suggest that that doesn’t necessarily mean that they will react favorably to seeing it around them.”* Well, yeah. Either you're going to be th

by causi 4y ago

* these findings suggest that that doesn’t necessarily mean that they will react favorably to seeing it around them.”* Well, yeah. Either you're going to be the type of person who thinks it's shameful, or the type of person to ogle them and make them uncomfortable, or the type of person who now has to try very hard not to ogle them. None of those are good reactions. Personally if I were in a place with topless women I would leave. Not looking would take too much willpower.

WarOnPrivacy 4y ago
> Either you're going to be the type of person who thinks it's shameful, or the type of person to ogle them and make them uncomfortable, or the type of person who now has to try very hard not to ogle them. None of those are good reactions. Personally if I were in a place with topless women I would leave. Not looking would take too much willpower. Are you certain that shame and ogling are the only reasonable choices (while on a topless beach)? Also, the latter seems like the result of objectification (the focus of the article).
jakear 4y ago
I’ll let you in on a secret: attractive people actually like being looked at, it’s a sign their work paid off. It builds self esteem. As a corollary, it is rare for someone to want no one to find them worth looking at.
Brian_K_White 4y ago
You ogle for about a minute and then you get over it and grow up. Good grief. This attitude that women must be modest because men are helpless and not in control of themselves is not exactly beneficial to men, and also not true.
- causi 4y ago
  This attitude that women must be modest because men are helpless I'm not saying women have to do anything. Women should be allowed to dress however they want. I'm just saying I'm going to avoid participating in situations or places I find onerous.
gizmo686 4y ago
As someone who regularly goes to mix gendered, clothing optional spaces; you get used to it really quickly.

by causi 4y ago

WarOnPrivacy 4y ago

> Either you're going to be the type of person who thinks it's shameful, or the type of person to ogle them and make them uncomfortable, or the type of person who now has to try very hard not to ogle them. None of those are good reactions. Personally if I were in a place with topless women I would leave. Not looking would take too much willpower. Are you certain that shame and ogling are the only reasonable choices (while on a topless beach)? Also, the latter seems like the result of objectification (the focus of the article).

jakear 4y ago

I’ll let you in on a secret: attractive people actually like being looked at, it’s a sign their work paid off. It builds self esteem. As a corollary, it is rare for someone to want no one to find them worth looking at.

Brian_K_White 4y ago

You ogle for about a minute and then you get over it and grow up. Good grief. This attitude that women must be modest because men are helpless and not in control of themselves is not exactly beneficial to men, and also not true.

causi 4y ago
This attitude that women must be modest because men are helpless I'm not saying women have to do anything. Women should be allowed to dress however they want. I'm just saying I'm going to avoid participating in situations or places I find onerous.

gizmo686 4y ago

As someone who regularly goes to mix gendered, clothing optional spaces; you get used to it really quickly.